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I don't have any statement. So we'll go right to your questions.\n\u003e\u003e Mr. Kissinger-\n\u003e\u003e Who are you with?\n\u003e\u003e Kalamazoo, here in St. Louis, KBBL.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=13.0,37.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe Secretary of State must be, and is probably at this hour, [INAUDIBLE] a statement condemning what it calls the Iraqi invasion. And saying the US must protect the dismemberment of Iran. What would be your reaction to that statement?\n\u003e\u003e I have not seen the statement.\n\u003e\u003e It's just copy [INAUDIBLE]\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=37.0,59.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e And therefore, it's difficult for me to comment on a statement that I have not seen. My general position would be this. The United States, As a question of principle, should be opposed to the settlement of disputes by force. Secondly, the United States has had a tradition of friendship with Iran and should be opposed to the dismemberment of Iran.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=59.0,97.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThirdly, Iran is holding 52 American hostages. And while Iran holds American hostages, I would say nothing in its defense. And it cannot avail itself of our protection or support. I would say the precondition of any cooperation in any form between us and Iran would have to be the release of the hostages.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=97.0,123.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e What do you think about the statement labeling the outbreak in hostilities as the Iraqi invasion, though? Doesn't that move the US out of an impartial position?\n\u003e\u003e I would not take a position under present circumstances. I do not think that a government that has described us as the Big Satan and that has held 52 Americans, deserves American support.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=123.0,145.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThere's no law that says that we must express an opinion on every subject in the world.\n\u003e\u003e But you wouldn't be against the dismemberment of Iran?\n\u003e\u003e I'm against the dismemberment of Iran. I'm against the settlement of disputes by force. But I'm also against the United States groveling before Iran.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=145.0,164.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Dr. Kissinger, I'm Ian McBride, also with Channel 2. May we-\n\u003e\u003e [CROSSTALK] But I would like to make clear that I'm commenting on something that I have not seen. And yes, I'm stating general principles. I cannot really fairly comment on something that I haven't seen.\n\u003e\u003e May we infer, then, sir, that you consider the return of the hostages as more important than the of Iran?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=164.0,192.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e I say that a country that keeps 52 American diplomats as hostages for a year and humiliates the United States and plays on the agonies of Americans, forfeits American support. As a general proposition, the United States has an interest in the integrity of Iran. Under normal circumstances, the United States should stand for the integrity of Iran.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=192.0,218.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut we cannot accept the proposition that a country can keep Americans captive. And yet ask for our support for its integrity. I think that will get us into a Never-never land. All they have to do, according to my view, is to end their illegality and to end their hostility to the United States.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=218.0,243.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd of course, we should stand for the integrity of Iran. But I think it is time that people realize that they cannot both kick us around and ask for our support.\n\u003e\u003e Dr. Kissinger, on the subject of war and peace, which candidate would you choose to keep us out of war and why?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=243.0,262.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e I would support Governor Reagan as better suited to keep us out of war. In my judgment, the danger of war is not an individual act by a president. I think the danger of war is the disintegration of any restraint in the international environment and a multiplication of crises, which threaten war.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=262.0,285.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe have seen now in our recent years a constant escalation of crises. It started with two invasions of Syria, went on to Cuban troops in Ethiopia. Two Communist coups in Afghanistan, Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, Soviet Naval base in South Yemen. Now a war in the Persian Gulf, which as already forced the president to say that the United States would use force if necessary to the Straits of Hormuz open.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=285.0,316.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI'm not challenging his statement that this is what we ought to do. But I'm challenging a sequence events which got us into a position where that threat had to be made. And for that reason, I believe that Governor Reagan is better suited to maintain the peace.\n\u003e\u003e And by the way, I'm Sue Matthias with KMOX radio in St.Louis.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=316.0,334.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Okay.\n\u003e\u003e Dr. Kissinger, Channel 5 from St. Louis. Defense Secretary Brown says that scrapping the SALT II treaty would cost the United States billions of dollars and a nuclear arms race that wouldn't provide any security. Do you support Ronald Reagan's position then to scrap the the new SALT treaty?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=334.0,353.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Well, I think that Ronald Reagan's position is somewhat more complicated than simply scrapping the new SALT treaty. There are a number of things to keep in mind. The current SALT treaty would run out in 1985 in any event. In other words, it cannot now be ratified under any legislative calendar before the middle to the end of 1981, even under President Carter's calendar.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=353.0,379.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo, we're talking about something that would have a life of less than three years. And which is, therefore, not relevant to make most arms decisions that are made. Because most arms decisions require a lead time of four to six years. Secondly, I think it is a somewhat cynical performance to have withdrawn the treaty twice.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=379.0,402.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOnce last Fall because of the Soviet brigade in Cuba. Then, again in January because of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. And now, in October, in the middle of an election campaign, when there's no prospect of getting it ratified at all. Suddenly the SALT treaty becomes a symbol of peace in war, ending the arms race and so forth.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=402.0,426.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAs I understand Governor Reagan, and I think I do because I've spent some time with him today, his position is as follows. He is prepared to begin negotiations immediately on a new SALT agreement, that would last ten years. In other words, which would in fact affect weapons decisions and not just be symbolic.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=426.0,447.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSecondly, he's prepared, while these negotiations are going on, to agree to some interim measures to see to it that the arms race does not get out of control while the negotiations are going on. And these interim measures might include some of the provisions of the SALT II agreement.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=447.0,464.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThird, he believes that negotiations on arms control have to go side by side with negotiations for restrained international contact. And the reason he feels this is because we have to avoid a state of affairs where as in In recent years there is, that series of aggressive moves while self negotiations are going on.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=464.0,487.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt is the Soviet geopolitical offensive that is creating an incentive for an arms race and so, it is his belief which I support that we must put an end both to aggressive conduct and to the arms race. And in this context, as I have explained it, I support Governor Reagan's position.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=487.0,509.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e How much of a role have you played in advising Governor Reagan on foreign affairs.\n\u003e\u003e Governor Reagan has consulted me from time to time in recent months. I speak to him occasionally. And I have had an input but I am not a member of Governor Reagan's staff and as you know there have been times when he did not express himself about me with the affection that I think I deserve.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=509.0,547.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH].\n\u003e\u003e But never the less I support him in both for the presidency and on the issues that we are discussing here.\n\u003e\u003e Doctor you mentioned yesterday that you did not, do not expect to serve in the White House, in the event that he becomes president. Is that to say that you won't.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=547.0,569.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e No, first of all the question was not did I expect to serve in the White House. The only job in the foreign policy field at the White House is security advisor,position which I have had. And which I believe should be downgraded, as Governor Reagan has said yesterday, and I'm not sure that I'm the ideal man to downgrade a position.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=569.0,589.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd the-\n\u003e\u003e Are you saying that you would not serve within his cabinet in some position.\n\u003e\u003e I'm not saying that I would not serve in some position. I said I do not expect to be asked to serve in the White House and I, after all you all know some of the statements the Governor has made during the primary campaign so that he has certainly not indicated that he might look for new talent.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=589.0,619.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOn the other hand of course, who am I to keep him to every campaign pledge he has made.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Doctor Kissinger, I'm Beverly with WRTH Radio. Did you say you talked to Mr. Reagan today.\n\u003e\u003e Yes, I flew with-\n\u003e\u003e What did you talk about.\n\u003e\u003e I flew with him from Washington to Cincinnati.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=619.0,636.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe talked about the SALT position. Therefore, what I'm saying here, I think, conservative also represents his own views. We spoke on the international environment in general and what a newly elected president would face after the election. And has he mentioned to you any ideas he has about perhaps easing the situation in the Middle East.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=636.0,670.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e When we talked about the middle east situation in general and I think he is, I know he's dedicated to continuing the peace process and accelerating it between the Arabs and Israel. But at the same time, to put it in the context of what I take to be the three major problems in the area.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=670.0,694.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOne is the Soviet influence and military balance of power. Second is to balance between moderates and radicals among the middle east nations. And the third is the Arab Israeli conflict. This three issues can not be separated from each other and in order to make progress on one you have to to make progress on the others.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=694.0,716.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I have the distinct impression that the governor's dedicated to making progress in all three areas.\n\u003e\u003e And which do you believe is more important for our defense, to build up arms in the nuclear end of our defense or to build up the conventional. Means.\n\u003e\u003e Well I believe two things.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=716.0,735.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOne, the current state of our defense is inadequate. And all the figures that are being thrown around are really highly misleading. In all significant categories, the Soviet Union is producing more weapons that we are across the board. So, in order to avoid falling behind the strategic field, we have to modernize part of our strategic forces.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=735.0,766.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOn the other hand, I believe that the greatest threat to our security will not arise in the nuclear field, but in the field of conventional threats and of assaults on the regional balance. And what we therefore need is not only throwing more money at the problem but a strategic doctrine in which we can gradually shift from the reliance on strategic nuclear power to the more serious, to the more likely dangers which have to do with a conventional weapons and regional crisis.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=766.0,801.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Doctor Kissinger.\n\u003e\u003e Whoever has this tape recorder it just shut itself off it-\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Doctor Kissinger, with the, has President Carter mishandled the hostage situation and are there steps that you would recommend now in an effort to free them.\n\u003e\u003e Well, I want to stay out of the tactics of the hostage situation, because I don't want to take the responsibility for negotiations that may be in progress.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=801.0,826.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI believe that holding hostages for 11 months, it's too long. And I would hate to think that this is a pattern of American reaction that we can afford to repeat. But beyond that I don't want to go into the tactical details because some negotiation is obviously going on.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=826.0,852.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I feel that President must be given the opportunity to bring them to a conclusion.\n\u003e\u003e Doctor Kissinger, with that in mind, what about the Persian Gulf affairs. I'm sure as your past position, you had some words that you would consider, why the president--\n\u003e\u003e What do you mean, about Persian Gulf affairs.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=852.0,870.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e What should be going on with that. Is he taking the proper steps [INAUDIBLE] or he said he went not far enough in the beginning. What about now.\n\u003e\u003e Well I think in the Persian Gulf we now face the problem that two governments both of which in different ways are hostile to our purposes, are at war with each other.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=870.0,887.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd that we do not have the capacity to intervene directly or indirectly. So I think that the best policy for the United States in the current war is to stay out of it and to maintain a position of strict neutrality while at the same time, shoring up friendly governments in that area and trying to develop a common strategy with countries like Egypt and maybe even Turkey, that have an interest in stability in that area.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=887.0,918.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut in the immediate situation, I think we should be very careful, lest we get ourselves involved.\n\u003e\u003e Is that what you said.\n\u003e\u003e In the immediate situation, I have no major criticism of the details.\n\u003e\u003e Doctor Kissinger Robin Smith came when CBS News came to television. And earlier today, while we were touring with Governor Reagan in Cincinnati, he was quoted as saying or accusing President Carter of a grandstand plan, saying that he would resubmit himself to the treaty after the election.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=918.0,953.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWould you expand on that, please.\n\u003e\u003e No, I said this.\n\u003e\u003e [COUGH].\n\u003e\u003e Last year [SOUND]. First of all, the President. President Carter inherited the draft treaty from President Ford. He scrapped it and started from scratch. Three years later, he came up with a treaty that was somewhat worse than what he inherited.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=953.0,974.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThat was submitted to the Senate. It was then withdrawn or held up last fall when the issue of the Soviet Brigade in Cuba. Then just as they were cranking up to resubmit it again in January, it was withdrawn because of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. So the President had a year and a half to ask the Senate to vote on the treaty.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=974.0,1000.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nHe refused to ask for a Senate vote in October of last year. He refused to ask for a Senate vote in February of this year, in a Democratic Congress. And now in October, when the Senate is not in session, it is introduced as a political issue in a campaign against a candidate, who had nothing to do with withdrawing it to begin with.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1000.0,1023.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nTherefore, I think it is a grandstand play. It is more over the judgement of men like Senator Baker that the treaty, as it stands, has no chance of being ratified. And why this is now becoming an issue when it was not made an issue earlier this year when we could have had a debate in the Senate and seen what the Senate reaction was, that is what I am objecting to.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1023.0,1053.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e On the other hand, President Carter has said Governor Reagan's statements regarding any SALT treaties and the way he approaches it are purely, quote, naive? Would you like to comment on that?\n\u003e\u003e Naive?\n\u003e\u003e Naive.\n\u003e\u003e Well, my comment is that what we should have learned is that to treat SALT in total isolation from anything else that goes on in the world turned SALT into a safety valve for Soviet aggressive conduct.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1053.0,1084.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThere were Cuban troops in Ethiopia, Communist coups in Afghanistan, Communist coups in South Yemen, while we merrily went along negotiating SALT. It seems to me that the approach of Governor Reagan, who says we must move in tandem on both of these issues, is realistic. Secondly, Governor Reagan is not saying that he is against SALT.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1084.0,1105.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nGovernor Reagan is saying he wants an agreement that lasts a long enough time to affect the decisions on weapons of countries. Right now, whether this agreement gets ratified or not, it stops no program. Because any new program you want to carry out would occur after the treaty has already lapsed.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1105.0,1124.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I must say, for that reason, that I cannot agree with President Carter's statement.\n\u003e\u003e Dr Kissinger, I'm having a hard time. I keep hearing you interject Mr. Reagan's name. Are you campaigning for him?\n\u003e\u003e You people are asking me about Governor Reagan. I'm perfectly willing to state my own views.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1124.0,1143.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e But are you campaigning for him?\n\u003e\u003e I'm not here campaigning. I'm not here to campaign for him, I'm here to give a speech at Webster College.\n\u003e\u003e But are you campaigning for him?\n\u003e\u003e I have done a few campaign appearances for him, yes.\n\u003e\u003e And will continue through November?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1143.0,1163.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e In fact, I don't know. I have not scheduled another campaign appearance for Governor Reagan. I'm supporting a few candidates for the Senate that I have known while I served in Washington and for the Congress. [CROSSTALK] No, no, I strongly support Governor Reagan. But I think all of you will remember that you are the ladies and gentlemen that raised the questions.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1163.0,1194.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI'm pretty willing to answer them in my own name. And what I say is my own conviction, and it's not something that is suggested that I say by Governor Reagan. I support him where our views are parallel. [CROSSTALK]\n\u003e\u003e Ongoing negotiations with regard to the hostage situation. Tell us more about those [CROSSTALK]\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1194.0,1218.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e I don't know about them. I just have the impression that there must be, and I cannot believe that this statement today is unrelated, simply comes out of the blue.\n\u003e\u003e The Muskee statement.\n\u003e\u003e I can't, I repeat, I wanna make certainly one point very clear. I have taken the position, since I left office as Secretary of State, that I will not attack any of my successors.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1218.0,1244.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI have never made any criticism of either Secretary Vance or Secretary Muskee. I know what the job is like, and I know how serious it is. And I know that Secretary Muskee is a man, is a very serious person. You've asked me to comment on a statement, and I've given you my reaction.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1244.0,1271.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut I don't want to have this appear in any sense as derogating from my higher council and Secretary Muskee.\n\u003e\u003e Dr Kissinger, Sue Matthias, KMOX radio, you are here to speak about the outlook for the 80s. Briefly, what is it?\n\u003e\u003e Well, I think the outlook for the 80s is, it's a paradox in the sense that the midterm outlook is for a series of crises.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1271.0,1298.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe long term outlook is actually quite hopeful, provided we get through the crises that are foreseeable.\n\u003e\u003e What crisis-\n\u003e\u003e You mentioned, Doctor, that on the hostage situation, if they were released, United States shouldn't give some support to Iran.\n\u003e\u003e No, I'm saying something else. I'm saying the relationship between the United States and Iran has to be based on two things.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1298.0,1325.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFirst, the end of the hostage crisis, secondly, the national interest of the two countries concerned. If you look at the history of Iran, the threats to Iran's independence have almost invariably come from what is today Iraq, or from what is today the Soviet Union. I know of no threat to the independence of Iran or Persia that came from across the sea and certainly none that came from a distance of 8,000 miles.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1325.0,1355.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo we are no security threat to Iran. Secondly, in terms of the balance of power in the Middle East, the United States has an interest in an independent Iran, whose territorial integrity is maintained. And therefore, a normal Iranian government that does not adopt a position of artificial hostility to the United States ought to be able to count on our understanding of our own national interest.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1355.0,1378.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nTo pursue those policies that will encourage the independence and territory integrity of Iran. But I do not believe that any foreign government should have the right to blackmail us into doing what we either do voluntarily or shouldn't do at all.\n\u003e\u003e Dr Kissinger, your comment sounds like President Carter's today, which you may not have heard-\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1378.0,1402.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e I haven't.\n\u003e\u003e In the past two hours. On the campaign trail, President Carter's characterized as pulling a rabbit out of his hat this morning by saying that the United States government must first drop all trade embargoes affecting Iran. And therefore, after the release of the hostages, must support a healthy Iran.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1402.0,1418.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nHow do you differ from that statement?\n\u003e\u003e My general view is that the hostages must be released first. And after that, we can talk about other matters, that a country cannot exact terms from the United States by seizing American citizens. Humiliating them causing anguish to American families and holding them without a shred of justification in defiance of the international community for 11 months this is after all the record.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1418.0,1452.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo individual steps that the president might have in mind, I might agree with if they occur after the hostages are released. But we should indicate ourselves is that if at the end of this process if simultaneous with the release of the hostages we start shipping arms into Iran, a large economic aid program.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1452.0,1473.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd whatever we call it, and if all of this happens more or less simultaneously with the release of the hostages, we won't fool anybody into believing that this was not a kind of ransom we're paying for the release of the hostages. And I would separate whatever we want to do for Iran sufficiently in time from the release of the hostages so that our people understand and what is worse, terrorists around the world understand that you cannot exact American concessions by grabbing American citizens.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1473.0,1507.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo I might agree with some of the steps he's prepared to take, provided it is not a quid pro quo for releasing the hostages.\n\u003e\u003e I want to say, Dr. Kissinger, that we should wait a period of time before giving them any aid in the\n\u003e\u003e Absolutely, I think it's an absurdity to say you've now kept 52 American hostages under conditions of enormous anguish for the hostages and for their families.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1507.0,1535.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd now if you release them this entitles you to a large economic aid program.\n\u003e\u003e But isn't waiting just playing a game to try and fool everybody?\n\u003e\u003e Let them release the hostages and then let them talk to us and then we'll judge it on its merit.\n\u003e\u003e Dr Kissinger, with regards-\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1535.0,1553.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Our country is gonna be better off who have ceased 52 American hostages compared to those who toned and who have to talk to us about economic aid. But let me say, I know this is an issue of great anguish to people. And I think it ought to be kept out of the political campaign.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1553.0,1572.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd if the president should decide not to listen to what I have said, I'm not gonna go around the country turning that into an issue.\n\u003e\u003e Dr. Kissinger, the Republicans don't seem to be keeping it totally out of the political campaign with regard to the Iranian situation. You said it's obvious that some negotiations must be going on.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1572.0,1593.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAre you expecting a, quote, October surprise as well?\n\u003e\u003e I'm saying that, as a foreign policy expert, it seems to me some negotiations are going on. I'm not saying they're going on for political reasons, I'm not going in to the motives. I'm simply, as an observer, judging from the plethora of statements that is being made, and from the rapidity with which they succeed each other, that there is some signaling some negotiation going on.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1593.0,1633.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI don't call it an October surprise, I simply state the fact, and I've stated my reaction to it. I do not go into motives, this is not for me to discuss and I am wiling to grant the good faith of our national leadership, so I gave you my judgement as to the wisdom I did not judge the motive.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1633.0,1659.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Dr. Kissinger, you have been very generous I think there's time for one more question.\n\u003e\u003e Dr. Kissinger, I'd like to ask you about the concept of the co-presidency that was bantered about.\n\u003e\u003e Well, that was a concept that was bantered about by everybody except the people who were doing the talking.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1659.0,1678.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e There can be no co-presidency. In the discussions that, first of all, I did not, contrary to what many newspapers reported, I did not myself conduct any of the discussions. I sat in on them and listened to them. Secondly, I was urged to do so, not by President Ford, but by Governor Reagan and his associates, who asked me to use my influence with President Ford to induce him to join the ticket.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1678.0,1709.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThat is how I got involved, become involved at the request of President Ford. Thirdly, the problem was to see whether a man who had been president and might become Vice President, could play a role in the administration that was somewhat more systematic than is the case with historic Vice Presidents.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1709.0,1735.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThere was never any concept of a co-presidency. It was a concept of whether he might be able to act as a Chief of Staff, or as a, which, a petition which now exists anyway, by non-elected officials. The problem is so complicated, and the role of the Vice President not having been settled in 200 years of our history, it wasn't possible to define it properly Adequately in the few hours that were left at Detroit.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1735.0,1769.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe people involved thought that everybody had behaved with honor. You can see that President Ford is campaigning for president over Governor Reagan with great intensity and almost full-time. But the term co-presidency was not part of the discussions, or the concept of co-presidency.\n\u003e\u003e Dr. Kissinger, among the-\n\u003e\u003e We'll make that the last one.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1769.0,1796.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Okay, among the people talking to Ronald Reagan, yourself, former President Ford and former President Nixon, who do you think he is listening to the most?\n\u003e\u003e I have no idea.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e I have my say, and then I go on my own way. I'm not part of the Reagan organization.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1796.0,1818.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhen he has a question, he either calls me or meets with me. And what I say I say on my own, and if you want to get the pristine version of the Reagan campaign you have to talk to some of his closest, I mean to the regular entourage.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1818.0,1839.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI can't tell who he listens to most. This really has to be asked of Governor Reagan.\n\u003e\u003e I was wondering if he ever mentioned to you some advice that one of the other men gave him a talking-\n\u003e\u003e Well President Ford and I are of course, friends for a long time.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1839.0,1852.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo, President Ford and I are in close touch with each other. I do not in fact know what advice others are giving him and indeed whether it's true what you say that he asked President Nixon frequently for advice. I just don't know that. I'm not denying it. If so, I don't know exactly what advice President Nixon is giving him and if I can say whether he is taking it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1852.0,1877.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8539/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Thank you.\n\u003e\u003e Thank you very much. Will you make clear that I was responding to. Yes sir I know you were responding I know you had support but I just had to ask you actively campaign. And I wanna make clear that I hadn't seen the station that I was responding the term of the version of this thing.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=1877.0,1939.82694"}]},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8540","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["ms_1981_s07_b0996_0001_caption.vtt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8540/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Will you tell me what newspaper or\ntelevision or radio station you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=13.596,18.641"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8540/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"represented, for my own education,\nwhen you ask a question?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=18.641,23.513"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8540/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't have any 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with?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=29.279,33.465"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8540/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e Kalamazoo, here in St. Louis, KBBL.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=33.465,37.17"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8540/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The Secretary of State must be,\nand is probably at this hour,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=37.17,40.627"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8540/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[INAUDIBLE] a statement condemning\nwhat it calls the Iraqi invasion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=40.627,44.494"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8540/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And saying the US must protect\nthe dismemberment of Iran.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=44.494,48.87"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8540/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What would be your reaction\nto that statement?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=48.87,50.921"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8540/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e I have not seen the 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principle,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=71.711,78.271"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8540/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"should be opposed to the settlement\nof disputes by force.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=78.271,83.09"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8540/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Secondly, the United States has had\na tradition of friendship with Iran","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=84.17,89.73"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8540/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and should be opposed to\nthe dismemberment of Iran.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601#t=91.15,97.845"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17999/file/73601/transcript/8540/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thirdly, Iran is holding\n52 American 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