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Which is the joint seminar. It might even be of any appropriate to this case. And I certainly think of one. So we'll skip the appropriate story.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH] [APPLAUSE]\n\u003e\u003e What you will be participating in and learn today and tomorrow is a direct part of the.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=5.0,67.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe very subject Aryan visual making presentations of any discussion. Either a trustee, a special advisor, a program director, or a long term participant In the institute, and we have in some very distinguished special guests with us. We've got a very crowded agenda for two days, but I think a very interesting one, and one that's very much interlocked.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=67.0,93.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOn the administrative side, one, we hoped that there'd be no smoking. Is this room. While it's fine right now, this afternoon may get a little warm. In any event there are quite a number of people here for the size of the room. For those who want to see the Plantation, the institute's really magnificent place in much of its worth and we're not all gathered together here in the summer.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=93.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAt the 12:30, those slides will be [INAUDIBLE] and any questions asked that you'll get a feeling of the landscape. And an installation an hour, ten minutes from Washington to be a great [INAUDIBLE] of pride, particularly in the subject of governance. And the relationship between individual freedom and creativity and social justice that the whole profession of public private sector.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThat I urge those of you who haven't seen [INAUDIBLE] if you're interested to do so. We will reconvene very promptly at 2:45 after lunch, please be on time, because we've got a lot of ground to cover this afternoon. And we are doing a fairly long break, we had lunch at one, and we're in here at 12:30.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=150.0,172.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd that will be the same for both days. The. There's been one change in the program due to the death of John Wheeler, very great friend and mentor. Of both Brandon Jordan and Lyle Carter who are trustees of the institute. They flew to Georgia to go to the funeral today.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=172.0,196.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd as you know Brendan was going to lead a discussion about impacted areas and how well we're talking about on a national, international scene. Looked from the vantage point of the city's agenda, the impacted areas of the city in particular. Let me review very briefly what the program is for the next two days.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=196.0,217.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI said it [INAUDIBLE] at one time. We're starting today with Colin Williams, who has been active with the institute for nearly a decade. He attended several of the broadcaster's meetings where he made probably a greater impact on any single individual on that very bright, but competitive group. Namely, the heads of the of the networks, and public broadcasting, and the major producers of the country by bringing in themes of value.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=217.0,243.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd questions of, again, matters of priorities and values and lifestyles, and handing out some praises the subject of entertainment television. And many of the programs you see, good and bad, are [INAUDIBLE]. More important, the help desk, on one of the main subjects of the institute, one of the overarching subjects, was tied [INAUDIBLE] together, named the governments.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=243.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd under governments is a special culture and modernization. What is the impact of the modernization process on culture? You remember we can deal with this in other times. This is a subject which and some colleagues from the Middle East and elsewhere in the world have been dealing. And we'll have a Seminar America, with Japan and Europe.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=270.0,296.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo it is really quite a universal subject, although some of the issues changed, the basic question of choice, and which value you hold on to, and which values you want to discard come up all the time as a problem [INAUDIBLE] just came back from China to see the enormous impact that the decision [INAUDIBLE] modernization theme.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=296.0,325.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe're gonna ask Colin Williams in addition to being special advisor of the Aspen Institute is dean of the Yale divinity school. Raise a few ideas, about 15 minutes or so, then we'll have a half hour of discussion. We're moving the case, for American society which would involve trustee, and attorney general [INAUDIBLE] who's the director of [INAUDIBLE] individual.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=325.0,357.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe're going to move that until tomorrow after we've finished with the international subjects of Henry Kissinger's presentations and then there'll be some [INAUDIBLE] discussions after that. And that's the discussion on the Middle East. With respect to the Middle East, we might have gotten back [INAUDIBLE].\n\u003e\u003e On the point of omission, it looks as if.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=357.0,382.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e And I surely won't be here tomorrow.\n\u003e\u003e You won't be here tomorrow?\n\u003e\u003e I leave on the five o'clock plane this afternoon to get back to\n\u003e\u003e But [INAUDIBLE] can't believe they don't have it. [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e [NOISE] From the middle east where the vice president can hold the discussion.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=382.0,418.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n[INAUDIBLE] And participate in that as long as Mohammed were innocent and making them the youngest congregation to our executive seminar coverage. So we'll work out, so we can get the basic case in writing. So here, purely, we will want to discuss the subject. Later this morning and we may have to spill over a bit in the afternoon when we make this adjustment.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=418.0,446.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n[INAUDIBLE] You'll remember that we agreed last year that he would lead the discussion this year on jobs and work in contemporary society. And that would then lead into Henry Kissinger's Presentation on global structures. Policies, procedures and major thrusts for peace are dangerous to the war both on the geographical function.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=446.0,471.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nYou have a very broad view of the subject and opening discussion to the many people here who are involved in international affairs And we're leaving a very major block of time both this afternoon and tomorrow morning for that. Because, in many ways that will be a world census many of the issues we're working on.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=471.0,491.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI repeat, everything we are discussing, is directly related to institute programs. [INAUDIBLE] And finally, we have a general discussion on governance, on stopping the action programs and we'll wrap up where we hope also everyone will pitch in. We may have to cut that down slightly [INAUDIBLE] there should be approximately that at the same time [INAUDIBLE] main outlines put on the table there.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=491.0,525.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo that [INAUDIBLE]. We've got some [INAUDIBLE] in the room, so let's go right to it and start with. Anything is fair game, this informal [INAUDIBLE] talk about the Jerusalem seminar, which we have developed on monotheism and the first seminar. So I want to use that as the springboard for some of this discussion that seminar has behind it another project that on the future of Jerusalem.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=525.0,569.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOf which, one of the things we explored was the history of Jerusalem as the pivotal center for the three monotheistic traditions. And as we explored that and it became clear on the one hand that you need to take that history. And that continuing power of the tradition into account when you're dealing with present tensions [INAUDIBLE] but it's also clear that the present is radically different from the past.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=569.0,599.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd of the three traditions now facing the powerful tension between their past and the modernizing process. So this Jerusalem seminar decided to center it on that question of inter relationship between the past and the present, monotheism and modernization. Its one od the greatest ironies of history that modernization grew up out of the soil of radical monotheism at first sight, this seems pretty unlikely.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=599.0,629.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRadical monotheism after all has as its basic insistence that there's only one god, and that he's the sole creator and rule. And that therefore life can only be understood from above that is from God's purpose for the world. And yet [INAUDIBLE] rights to its apparent opposite to the police that we can understand and control a world without God, and that life can be understood and controlled by us below.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=629.0,659.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd basically that's what the modernizing process Accessible about. Now there are reasons of course why this apparent contradiction occurs. Yet sometimes, they have a secularization starter when Abraham left [INAUDIBLE] that might not have been obvious to Abraham.\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e But when he left the Chaldees and its nature gods, he set out in search of a god of history, the radically other, beyond nature.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=659.0,691.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd once the belief developed, that there is only one God, and that He created the world to be understandable. And that he created us in his image so that we could share his secrets, then the way was left open for the claiming bias of autonomy. If God made the world to be understandable and if we can share his secrets, well, let's do so on our own.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=691.0,716.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow of course that's one of the major themes of the double fall story in Genesis, you'll remember and the serpent is the first proponent of modernization. He says to Adam and Eve you shall be as gods and God tried to prevent that, and so warns them, look, don't do that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=716.0,734.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe moment you eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you shall die but of course, round one goes to the devil. They eat and don't die, so modernization is underway.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e The second half of the full story, as you remember, it's the Cain and Abel story.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=734.0,758.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nHere they are right outside still the Garden of Eden history hasn't begun yet. They're saying they're not quite knowing what to do and Able the goody-goody son wants to stay round and let God run things. But, Cain doesn't want that to happen, so he slays Cain, you remember to make room for his autonomous life without God.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=758.0,777.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd God says, okay go off into the land of Nod east of Eden go wandering make your own starting point to history. Be on your own and so that's what happens Cain sets out on the autonomous way of history in this old fable. And then there's one remarkable verse which sums it all up, which says, and Cain knew his wife, and she bore a son and called his name Enoch.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=777.0,804.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd Cain built a city and called it after the name of his son Enoch. Now Enoch, of course, means new beginning and this is the double beginning for history that Cain creates without God. The autonomous way with the two great institutions of the family and of the city.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=804.0,824.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd then that city story of course, you remember [INAUDIBLE] talk about music and father of. Music technology and all the rest. Now the way in which in the institution of the city we built up civilization as the substitute you're against god. Now that's the basic theme then of the biblical myths that modernisation is seen as emerging from monotheistic belief.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=824.0,855.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt, god makes it possible for us to do without him and made it possible, also by the way, for us to do it brilliantly and he succeeds. That of course there is a catch to the story of the bible the question is study phases is when catching feds is also present in history.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=855.0,875.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe catch in the bible that the modernization is less than a complete success. But the city Inevitably over-reaches itself and becomes the Tower of Babel. And that's inevitable for the reason that what we have try and do with that God is be our own immortality. And so therefore, they try to reach the sky to takeover the divine prerogatives But the reaches itself.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=875.0,903.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd finally, meaning of the meaning of mortality. And by the way, when you look at Floyd's whole theme of civilization of sickness, you can understand it's on the basis of this kind of biblical legend Saga. Now, this difficult theme of the tension between monotheism and modernization then is turned from the saga of the biblical record into history in the history of the west.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=903.0,936.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhen the church moved out of the east and made its surprising move into the Greco-Roman west. Then modernization finally became a historical fact it took a long time but it certainly happened. And the secret to that of course is the interrelationship between the biblical tradition brought by the Christian church and the Greek or Roman In which they now came in tension.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=936.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe genius of the great mind as we all know having been to Aspen seminars, is that it fearlessly sought to bring the whole of life under his own rational control. The language of reason could not directly formulate all of the export, in the language of myth was at hand to assign even to the Gods their place on the structure of the stage built by human reason.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=960.0,987.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow what the Greeks did in ordering the interior world of the mind, Rome then did in ordering the exterior world [INAUDIBLE]. [INAUDIBLE] domination, Rome saw a political domination. Now, when the Christian church with their biblical belief moved out into that world, now, a historic tension developed which is really the basis of our history.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=987.0,1013.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe historic meeting between two apparently contradictory views, the tension that gave rise to Western Civilization. The Greek U with its will to power [INAUDIBLE] with its belief in our capacity to order and to dominate. And the Christian U with its claim that humble self-giving is the ultimate secret, and that we must renounce the way of power and self-seeking for the way of love.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1013.0,1043.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow, the story of the west of course is the story of that tension. With the church trying to bring the autonomous mind of the Greco-Roman world under theonomous control, now the tension, of course, is the story. As the Christian west developed the result of contention was the gradually emerging of modernization.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1043.0,1068.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nMore and more areas of life were removed from a theological control. When it was finally affirm that we did not need to understand life from above, we can now explore it freely from below. And hence gradually the emergence of science and technology, and then shortly in the story, finally the emergence of modernization when the took over.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1068.0,1098.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nParticularly in this country in America, now meantime, the Jewish community in the west had been largely on the edge of this story for centuries because, they were isolated from the Christian culture. Thus, in the 19th century when the Jews finally moved out into the open in western culture, then we have one of the great developments in this story.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1098.0,1123.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe Jewish thinkers, finally out of their intellectual and spiritual background, brought brilliant new perspectives to the understanding of the whole modernizing process. The two obvious great names, Marx and Freud, but there's a whole host of them. Now, Helena, we are at the stage when in the intellectual exploration of this question, all sorts of problems are being raised about the interrelationship between our monotheistic roots and our process of modernization.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1123.0,1158.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nA question such as have modernization destroyed it's own essential ground? Monarchy as it was the original ground as we see now which modernization threw. It was monarchism which gave a sense of the unified meaning of life a belief that life has purpose Meaning come to you as it unfolds.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1158.0,1186.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut modernization, assuming that moved on over against monotheism and largely left it in the background. And so people like Daniel Bell, Robert along with many others, are asking whether we now face with the loss of the monotheistic roots? From which these beliefs came, whether we've suffered an irreparable loss of meaning, purpose, values.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1186.0,1207.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd whether it is only in the new grasp of the interrelationship between monotheism and modernization that meaning can be restored. If you've read brilliant that's usually a very pessimistic look on the trail of the list. You'll see that whole theme is that the west's vitality depended upon the continuing tension between [INAUDIBLE].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1207.0,1236.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd now with the tension having been lost, with the west unable, particularly in Europe, to return to its monotheistic roots. The audience is now silent and the west is now dying and the process is probably irreversible. That's [INAUDIBLE] but anyway the prophets often sound just as pessimistic so perhaps we should listen to him anyway.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1236.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow meantime one of the third great monotheistic traditions, Islam, in relation, this process, and that of course was largely outside the process altogether, until this century. Move into the west and being forced back, stayed outside the process. But now of course it is being rushed into the confrontation of the moderizing process.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1260.0,1287.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThis with remarkable speed and it's a major question now for many of the Islamic cultures as to how they'll handle this conflict between tradition and modernization. So we face questions such as in our relationship with the Islamic cultures. Will our experience help?, or vice versa? By the way, can their experience now throw light upon our own past and our struggles with the problem ourselves.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1287.0,1315.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd so this seminar, the Jerusalem seminar, took up this history and these questions and those are what they're trying to explore. Now we developed a book which is available, I suppose most people have it. [INAUDIBLE] the seminar book in which we talked in Aspen style major readings which opened up the questions.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1315.0,1337.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd use those\n\u003e\u003e It has been published and there'll be two more in the continuation series that involve, while creating the advance in various was calling invitation and growth.\n\u003e\u003e So be developing materials in questions to be discussed. Now let me just very quickly before I'm take point to some of the particular issues which would be given withdrawal.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1337.0,1364.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd the first, the whole question of the response within the monotheistic traditions of their relations process. I tried to point out that that relationship had been there from the beginning, that struggle, that emerged on the stage of history in a full sense only in the modern period. But from the beginning, the monotheistic communities, all of them, Jewish, Christian, Islamic, have had a double weight, often very confused, of trying to respond to this.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1364.0,1398.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOne is the way of withdrawal, saying the modernizing process is just a terrible temptation, and we've got to protest against. And this is what the monastic community and all three communities are basically trying to do. To reaffirm the purity of the, of the old monotheistic faith and to insist that the serpent must be resisted at all cost.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1398.0,1419.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut on the other hand, the other response always in the community, is been to try and make a positive meaning out of the tensions between the tradition and the modernising process. And therefore through involvement, to try and relate the tradition in an updating kind of way to the modernizing process.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1419.0,1438.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd so, in one of the seminars which we're now planning, we gave the deal in comparative studies that three traditions, of the language that responded in that way and the way in which those due responses assume very much presence, for example in Middle East cultures to this moment.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1438.0,1455.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow, another of the issue which we are planning to take up is, for example the question of law, is obvious for example that, the operation just between revealed law and property of law, is a major issue. And that, there is still great tension between those traditions In the three cultures.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1455.0,1479.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd then, we go together to Israel, for example, and then go to one of the Islamic cultures and ask the way in which they deal with their religious law and modern positive law. To see how much of an issue that is, and how burning an issue it is in many cases.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1479.0,1494.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo that's another one of these issues that we'll be trying to take up. Now, one final point. What we've been doing in this process, is to deal with the monotheistic traditions and the history of the relationship between, monarchies and the modernization of the west. And the meaning that it throws on the present policy issues, that are facing us when we deal with tensions in the Middle East.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1494.0,1520.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow, very soon after getting into this process it became clear to us, that while would be our continuing process, it was important from the beginning, to bring in some comparisons with non-western cultures and non-monotheistic religions. That's particularly in our present culture, the whole question of the relationship between religion and modernization has to be thrown against that wider cultural background.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1520.0,1550.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo, while that's been a sub-theme, it's been an important sub-theme as we develop this process. So that's a rough outline of the. Of the study process we've been undertaking.\n\u003e\u003e Thank you, I think you can see the value underpinning this has on all of the programs at the institute.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1550.0,1572.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nEspecially the executive seminar and all the, brought them into action. And the government's program in particular because this is part of decision making and underlying roots of it. Colon referred to in his presentation, cuz the word myth and he made the point first broadcast as we vary design test how myth.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1572.0,1592.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut the myth has to bear some relationship or I coined the word that they become misfits.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e But I think this question of leading emotions, myths, and feelings, and culture, and thinking that everything is quantifiable. Is part of this modernization process and I hope in the question period we bring this out a bit and can question this.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1592.0,1618.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhat is not a myth is that it has now been a formal decision that the case will be dealt with after this discussion.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e That surely to make a presentation Ed and Bob to be at either end of the table, for comment. And, because we did not want to break the continuity between the jobs we work in contemporary society and Henry Kissinger, longer and fuller relationships of the [CROSSTALK]\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1618.0,1650.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Of politics. So, now the floor is open to questions to a few minutes. And maybe, while [INAUDIBLE], let me add that the [INAUDIBLE] Institute has such just started a very large program involving the Middle East and Middle Eastern countries, and Islam. And you'll be hearing more about that later, and meaningful way, and are gonna be with us.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1650.0,1698.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo it's a question of bringing more of that culture, more of the leaders from that culture into the institute that's working light is a very important new factor who had the first question.\n\u003e\u003e Yes, [INAUDIBLE].\n\u003e\u003e I'm very interested in certain contrasts. Between Christianity and modernization, and Islam among them.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1698.0,1729.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIf it is true, that the recession or departure of Christianity leaves western design without the kind of [INAUDIBLE] were strong in a modernization process. Is it likely then there is less influence [INAUDIBLE]?\n\u003e\u003e Good question. One of the interesting things has been to discuss with Islamic scholars, the difference between the relationship between their monotheistic tradition and the modernizing process and the other two.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1729.0,1776.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd major difference, of course, is that Islam means so much the religion of the book in a more fundamentalist way than either Judaism or Christianity. In a way, therefore, they build up much more resistance to much of the modernizing process. If you've got Talmudic tradition you've become pretty flexible.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1776.0,1797.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIf you have doctrine of the Holy Spirit, you can use that.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e They don't [INAUDIBLE] good ones in Islam. And that part, makes them more able to resist some of the dissolving influences of the modernization. But also, it makes them less able to respond to some of the pressures of modernization.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1797.0,1823.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd so, therefore, one of the things that the auditors have been talking to us about is how they can develop the equivalent of Talmudic tradition, they have a sum of it as you know it and have this traditions, it's not nearly as free at following, and so in a way I suppose the answer is.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1823.0,1841.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nTheir tradition therefore, resist more effectively but it also adjust less effectively in many cases. And therefore, the split between many of the educated people and their religious tradition, I would see a great deal of that it's more profound somewhere in the Islamic culture too. So, I don't know how to predict.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1841.0,1866.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI simply point to some of the differences between the relationship. Is there room for a good heresy?\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Heresy is a strange word in Islam. In a way heresy it isn't an Islamic word, it's not orthodox but also practices Islam. In Islam, you're a good Muslim if you're obedient, if you remain in terms of your practice and within the tradition, within the community.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1866.0,1896.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd so, in one sense there isn't any room for a good heresy within Islam. You've got to be a, participant in that whole sense. But in the other sense, there's real room for heresy within this Islam, because they don't take as much account in a doctrine as [INAUDIBLE] So, next one of the places which people are looking for flexibility.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1896.0,1923.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [COUGH]\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE] This evening at 8.30 at the excuse me, in this room, we'll have a discussion of China.\n\u003e\u003e The very reasonably being there are then impact two three years because their enormous change. And in contrary modernization is being whether yes or not are their key issues concern and ability and how much they give in the outside.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1923.0,1949.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I would like to call that In this order and probably, I think the most relationship between each of the mentioned culture is sort of local art. And I wonder if he can make a covenant, or raise a question. Then I like to [INAUDIBLE] seminars may [INAUDIBLE] and then we'll go, and then I think we'll\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1949.0,1977.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e We're going to the next subject, as we do that, Coco, would you read out?\n\u003e\u003e The manner in which the problem has been presented and-\n\u003e\u003e Speak up a little bit please.\n\u003e\u003e In terms of the tension between the monastic and the [INAUDIBLE] reform involvement in the world.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=1977.0,2000.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Mm-hm.\n\u003e\u003e Had left as US/s said through Ron becoming silent. The structure of your argument seems to assume that all the remains are and should okay. If we look not only at purely monastic relations and obviously monoteism, we should realise that there are a number of varieties in, in that tradition among which the tradition of any verbally moralitism.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2000.0,2052.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThat they should say the attempt to be in this world but not of this world. A routine to me when you look at the development of, if you look at the outburst of mass of mass religiousity that is taking place in the United States. And some of the manifestatin of the outbirth In the religious social life, one gets the impression that the search now is not the search for meaning.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2052.0,2097.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt's not from that In terms of the dichotomy that you have seen. But in terms of the possibility of the internalization of a -. The perception of the significant lying within the modern world has developed. This means that there, that [INAUDIBLE] And we've always been more basic [INAUDIBLE].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2097.0,2146.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nA desire for the entire journey while we make the offertory and it may very well be that the [INAUDIBLE]. That now this has to be taken simultaneously. But they won't speak again.\n\u003e\u003e That I think is the most important question. What you've just said, basically, I think points to the delivering and notebook and in, the process that I was trying to eratically point.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2146.0,2182.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe dilemma of this, the kind of examination which we've undertaken here in the of describing is already an examination which is from the world to use in the terms. It's already assumes the modernizing stance. We are trying to understand from the log, the whole process. Now, therefore the question you rightly say is, is the study process appropriate to the subject?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2182.0,2214.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nMake itself.\n\u003e\u003e Has the study process already answered the question one way? Modernization is irreversible and. Now that's an embarrassing question for anybody, and the academic and it's an embarrassing question for anybody who's trying to set up an seminar. Now, we simply has to admit that that problem is there.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2214.0,2236.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nHave to deal the possibility being in with journey in a process which externalize the whole question. So what we try to do the Jerusalem seminar what recognizes that to deal with six in the morning and in the afternoon to spend our time,\n\u003e\u003e [COUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Walking the steps of the monotheistic journey.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2236.0,2262.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nGoing back to the old Jerusalem and walking through the steps of, for example, the Jewish story as it is, there in those, in that Jerusalem staying and the [INAUDIBLE]. And in that way also, to open themselves up to the question of whether it is possible for us to internalize that or that inward journey to be resumed in such a way that is relevant.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2262.0,2293.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think that the question you ask is immensely importance and therefore the designing of study processes, which keep the balance between these two, I think is something with a lot work to do [INAUDIBLE] make this crucial.\n\u003e\u003e Can I just make the talk?\n\u003e\u003e If you are worried about that question, don't worry about it because [INAUDIBLE]\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2293.0,2315.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e And it insists that normally, if God is going to speak, you have to put yourself in a position to hear. Human beings in ways, sometimes you'll see a prophet, and make him like a fire in his bones so they can't refuse to listen and speak but normally you have got to put yourself [INAUDIBLE] service process equations.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2315.0,2344.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e I knew exactly [SOUND]\n\u003e\u003e Standard issues could we have very brief comments or questions from navigator and then we will move on to\n\u003e\u003e Very briefly\n\u003e\u003e Problem of values versus or in accord with modernization. Obviously, it's not limited to monotheistic tradition at all. The writings that have come out of Japan since the defeat of the values which has been adopted by the between wars generation.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2344.0,2376.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd there's struggle to find new value t express what is happening in the dynamism of a temporarily society, have been really agonizing for them and for people truing to understand. In turn, we see confusionism versus for reinforcing communism in ways that its still hard to understand. In India we see, in a sense, they're working out of the contrasting points of view of Gandhi and Nehru, in terms of how to modernize with an adaptation of the local cultures.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2376.0,2413.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt has been very interesting, in India in particular, to see how traditional religious beliefs and had created inhibitions to modernization. [COUGH] But also uses and supports of modernization as in the reinterpretation of the purposes of the caste system in contemporary politics. A very effective mechanism for political movement.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2413.0,2438.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI did have one question and it has coming back to the monotheistic traditions. We see, in the expansion of Islam across Africa and elsewhere, a lot of the fundamentalist drive in Islam, although in eastern Islamic countries, frequently, the mood is somewhat different from that. We see in this country the religiosity that Coco mentioned.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2438.0,2464.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBeing very largely, very substantially at least in fundamentalist terms. Is it possible that the tension you speak of between monotheism and modernization has gotten to the point where what are sometimes called the mainline churches. Attempting to make adjustments between the basic Christian values and modernization, have lost their vast appeal, and rather than adjustment, a firm fundamentalist stand against man without God.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2464.0,2502.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIs the one approach that has vitality at this moment.\n\u003e\u003e That's a very good point, and I think the answer to the question is probably yes. But in the minds of lots of particularly young people. The main line churches seem to have made such easy peace with modernization, that they feel they have to go back to a much more primitive version of the monotheistic traditions for it to have any vitality.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2502.0,2532.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd that's where they get their start again and then have to move out from that and to deal with the modernizing process again later in many cases. But I think the point you make us.\n\u003e\u003e We'll get some of that into the [INAUDIBLE] because [CROSSTALK].\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE] anticipated me, I was going to raise in the matter of the eastern religions.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2532.0,2554.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I would like to ask two questions if I may. One of the specific [INAUDIBLE], and what extent is the for these seminars and studies going to try to take into account. The tension of a modernization not long and I feel most of the chance of them more up to date question of political relations, and the will that we have Leaders with inner ears who must be listening rather intensively to what a guard is trying to speak.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2554.0,2588.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd Jimmy Carter.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Jimmy Carter was raised in a fundamentalist religion much the same as the one I grew up in\n\u003e\u003e Earliest years. To what extent do you think his fundamentalism, as reflected so far by his leadership, is caught in the tension of modernization versus monotheism, and where does that lead us as the people, if anywhere.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2588.0,2621.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e They're in a way more overtly religious in their approach to this question, than most of their predecessors which is a fascinating historical circumstance. I don't know how to answer your questions about that. One of the interesting things for us at the time of the visit of the kinda made a great deal, you remember, in that wasn't it the Sunday morning press.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2621.0,2659.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhen he told me about the common monotheistic belief of the trio. And I didn't recognize adequately some of [INAUDIBLE]. But that's [INAUDIBLE] of at least Of them, some kind of common concern. And then, they all said that they were gonna listen, open to the immediate [INAUDIBLE] apart. So, all I can say is, you raised a good case study, but I don't Much.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2659.0,2696.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n[LAUGH] You know what? May I just say that there's some European state's move who hope that many other case are gonna be waiting for the voice of God, because they think this may not contribute to a positive effort and is an oxymoron. That's what I was gonna say.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2696.0,2717.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e That's why they loom as pessimistic as Europe.\n\u003e\u003e Right.\n\u003e\u003e [CROSSTALK]\n\u003e\u003e Marson and and then we'll move to the next section.\n\u003e\u003e Just a footnote that relates this discussion to the later one on work. You talked several times, Copeland, about monasticism. And I'd like to just refer to seeing the monastery in a double fashion, one is resistant to change.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2717.0,2740.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut two is the price in Christianity and Catholicism as it led to Calvinism, that provided for worker frugality for attachment to the clock, and the calendar and all those attributes without which modernization couldn't have taken place. And today's monasticism have very, very little of that character, I mean at any of them.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2740.0,2762.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Have you got a name?\n\u003e\u003e Shortcomings, the life of Cromwell is a very good instance of this inner voice being carefully modulated in relation to the backers that he had to fight.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Very good thing. Yes, I think that the good tradition will says, that kings should never claim directly the voice of God, let the prophets speak to them and they'll almost always tell the kings they're wrong.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2762.0,2786.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Well on that note, [INAUDIBLE], we now have [INAUDIBLE] and come up to\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e [APPLAUSE]\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE]\n[CROSSTALK].\nOf right after [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e The back drop of the Bosnian is a part and parcel of some of the great things that have already been mentioned Because the backdrop is guilt and expiation.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2786.0,2884.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe backdrop is the continuation of the American dilemma. The backdrop, if you will, is. The ability all the stain of.\n\u003e\u003e [COUGH]\n\u003e\u003e No matter how many quite have been lost so many times, since the beginning of the republic. And the problem remains to, sure that which people pray everyday for what kind of gift?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2884.0,2925.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd what else? As it turns off course, this great plan\n\u003e\u003e [COUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Is really what could have happened?\n\u003e\u003e And what did not. It's a great drama of refusal to decide. And in my view appropriately refusing to decide issues, which in many respects, must be. Work out over time without ultimately provoking confrontations which nobody knows how to dissolve.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2925.0,2973.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nCourts, like other deciders, are faced with a wide variety of moral dilemmas. The terrible dilemma of basking tore the Supreme Court apart. If you read the six opinions, the opinion which you will find the most opaque is the opinion written by Mr. Justice Stevens, speaking for Georgia. Who took a legalistic way.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=2973.0,3006.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNot to decide. So you will not really know how each one of those. I will take just a moment for those who may have forgotten what the actual setting of the case was, because I think you have to know that in order to understand why the case is so important for what it did in the side.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=3006.0,3038.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe question came up with respect to the admission of Mr. Balkey. Who claims that he has been discriminated but California medical school who a really medical school We have no history of discrimination of any time. That develops a two track system by the admission to the medical school.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=3038.0,3073.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOut of the 100 places for those commencing medical school 60 were preserved to minority prison. All persons could compete for 84 places. But all a minority person could compete with one another with respect to the success. The cake came up through the California court system not through the court federal system.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=3073.0,3101.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe California supreme court Invalidated the Davis program as a denial of equal protection under the federal Constitution, and required the assistance of Mr. Bowel. For procedural reasons that I will not discuss with this. The question was never litigated and will never be litigated with respect to Mr. is whether or not in fact he could have Successfully gotten into the college but for the minority program that just leave that aside.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=3101.0,3134.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [SOUND]\n\u003e\u003e The California Supreme Court is probably the most liberal court in the United States. To be sure that personality has changed the. 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The United States Supreme Court took that case, and one of the first things the court did was to decide to try to find a non constitutional way to resolve the issue.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517#t=3162.0,3190.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73517/transcript/8332/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd therefore they have agreed to solve on the question whether the [INAUDIBLE] program violated Title 6 of the [INAUDIBLE] 1964. 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I don't think that the [INAUDIBLE] case will have probably not much influence, if any or the University of Chicago's admission program. First place, the University of Chicago has believed in the older sense affirmative action which, interestingly enough.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=0.0,56.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJustice Brennan took the pains to go through the history to make a point. Affirmative action originally was to take extra effort to find from all areas, particularly minority areas, to spend money if necessary to do that. To help break unintended Yeah, patterns which were discriminatory because one didn't look hard enough.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=56.0,87.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOr because young people did not have the same expectations which Affirmative Action might give them. So university is all [INAUDIBLE] very hard [INAUDIBLE] Not only the minority students who were Black. For example, but for other students who come from the rural high schools and whatnot, where they're not going to a university such as the University of Chicago?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=87.0,114.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd it's run such programs, I think, rather effectively over many years that part of trying very hard to get. And it also tried to not be disgraceful in doing so, and not divide in lavish cars and so on as has been done by so many [INAUDIBLE]. It's not disturbed [INAUDIBLE] Modest opinion at least.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=114.0,143.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nMoreover, and I think this is an important point to make. I think most universities of this type are extremely anxious to help open the doors to society and worldly intellect and so on and they're anxious. You get students who really do, can do the work and they're anxious to contribute to society by reaching out, so that certainly will continue.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=143.0,173.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNot gonna say this opinion suggests we should not go to him. I also think that and to all the Is a kind of tactful appreciation that ordinary test scores may, and other. May not work for some students, and therefore to try to look, to see if there aren't other ways of judging people so that you can admit them.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=173.0,202.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut I think the university has always more often than not [INAUDIBLE] people as having been admitted. Because this is [INAUDIBLE] suggesting that in some way it is not the personal attribute which is [INAUDIBLE] believe that each individual should be. Should be judged on its own merits that I think is not going to be interfered with.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=202.0,229.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow I think there's a big question, Since the university does not have a quota system, it does not have a, taken race as the sole factor. You might say it's a free But there's another part of the case, and that is that, particularly in Justice Powell's opinion. And also Justice even more [INAUDIBLE] in Justice we have been kowtowing to the legislature and to the bureaucracy.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=229.0,258.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSuggesting that it would be different, if there had been findings of fact or perhaps, legislatively supported rules developed by an administrative agency, which might require certain kinds of actions. And we are teaching universities of our country to be great, we are teaching them to accept with grace a subordination to cut down regulations of all times.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=258.0,287.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think will have great repercussions and it may be that the will eventually emerge in a new form at some time, and universities will be instructed to take the race into account. Indeed, although I don't believe it to be the case, one can read the foul opinion of suggesting that if there were legislative findings for example in respect to medical school and so on.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=287.0,315.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThat even a quota system [INAUDIBLE] and [INAUDIBLE] believe that way but I wouldn't, to be sure, that a bureaucracy [INAUDIBLE] this.\n\u003e\u003e Thank you, this adds the [INAUDIBLE] up to not now, in this presentation.\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE] to relate the [INAUDIBLE] case to the question of affirmative action in work and jobs.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=315.0,340.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Yes Don, I wonder about if the same kind of optimism that Levy expresses. With only a dark footnote about the potential for HDW or others to have a prescription for admission. It really does apply to universities and colleges which are not among the great universities and colleges perhaps.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=340.0,374.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd which may be institutions that are now suffering from extreme anemia of funding. Of course, obviously I build into this the potential for Proposition 13, moving across the United States and aside from the more atmosphere of California. In short, is there any element conflict potentially between the body criteria for and minority admission and the economic problems with now developing in private Universities itself.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=374.0,421.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Now working with that question with a little preference as I guess. The distinction between this forum and a judicial forum which is the one we're talking about now Is that here you had two extraordinary, clear and brilliant presentations. So the main line, what's it all about? Whereas in the court's opinions as already indicated, is you get a very muddy of what the issues are, the decisions are, where to go from here.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=421.0,451.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I like to muddy these waters In which in the tradition I begin with respect for the presentation by my colleagues. I would never the less find the opinions of the court a little more freer and a little more guidance to universities and colleges. Than I believe Judge Hufstedler and Mister have suggested as I sit but to explain that, it's also necessary to give some historical background as to why the education community is so So concerned about the decision.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=451.0,486.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nTen years ago, when universities began for the first time what I call special mission programs or affirmative action, having preferred to use them, law schools, which I know best, medical schools, and other selective institutional programs suddenly woke up and found that they had become almost all white. The more pressure there was for admission, the more merely white they had become.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=486.0,513.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nVoluntarily, and I think to great credit and uniformly throughout the country, the great universities and the not so great universities adopted policies in which they worked out special admissions programs to make sure that there's educational diversity and that the professions and the higher strata of our society in general, will have a good mix of the populations of all.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=513.0,538.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhen the case and its forerunner, with the case came along, there were two threats. One was that the court would say it was unconstitutional to do any kind of preference, that the selection process had to be absolutely color blind, and that would mean inevitably that it would go back in those institutions to an essentially all-white program.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=538.0,559.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd if you want the statistics on that they're available It's, I think unfortunately, but very clear. The other prospect, and in some ways even more alarming to me was that the court would say that the program at Davis and any program that took race into account would be a violation of Title Six of the Civil Rights Act, and not necessarily unconstitutional, but leading it to the legislative forum to take corrective action.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=559.0,585.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe prospect of a battle in Congress or in state legislatures as to how the extent which race and ethnicity can [INAUDIBLE] is a prospect that fills me with great dread and fear. Thus the decision that came down last week Is to me a beacon light, a hope for the future because I read the opinions together as saying that it is possible for all except the most extreme programs, and Daedalus was the extreme program, all except the most extreme programs to go above as found as they have done in the past.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=585.0,621.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSome very strong pluses come out of that. The decision is moved back into the educational community, it is not left to the legislative community, at least the initiative is not with them. It is not taken by the court, so the court will define exact perimeters. But there's a great deal of room for expression given to individual colleges and universities.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=621.0,644.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThat means that they can come out of the rather covert policies which they have adopted in recent years being uncertain whether it was valid or not. Now knowing that certain kinds of programs, the mainstream programs used in great universities today are valid, they may go forward and develop them in a much more rational, and in a much more open way.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=644.0,667.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe can now do as we all should've done, and as Mr. Jeff said we must do, consider each applicant on the merits, taking race into account as a very strong background factor, ethnicity is a very strong factor, economic disadvantage perhaps is an important factor, and all other factors can get up the balance admissions program.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=667.0,685.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow, sure it's our question, what will happen to the schools of lesser stature as they seek to bring minority to them? My speculation is it will not be much change from the present. There is, there always has been a pecking order in educational institutions-\n\u003e\u003e [COUGH]\n\u003e\u003e And the strongest applicants, whether they be white male, white female, black, Chicano, whatever, ten to go to those schools to the extent that they can get accepted, and the next ranker schools and the next ranker schools take what is left.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=685.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd that doesn't mean that they're not qualified and they're not very good indeed. And I see no reason that the program should not continue in about the same way for all the schools. Now, resource of question. And a difficult question is a difficult question. It's not a question that is difficult just for private universities or just for state universities.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=720.0,739.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt's difficult for all, and so each institution is going to have to make up its own mind dependent upon its own resources, what kind of systems it can give in order to make viable the program of attracting well-qualified minorities into the program. That's the problem with which all institutions, individually and collectively, have grappled in the last ten years, but now happy to be eased in the future, but it will not be made more difficult in the future than it has in the past.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=739.0,768.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e I think Joe, it might be helpful in the few minutes to remain to take whatever questions to either respond or [INAUDIBLE].\n\u003e\u003e Okay.\n\u003e\u003e To Lou Hanson and Glenn Robinson, in that order [INAUDIBLE]. And then we'll be having coffee at 11 o'clock, and we'll have a short break then.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=768.0,792.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd then [INAUDIBLE]. Lou? [INAUDIBLE] More colleagues and state [INAUDIBLE].\n\u003e\u003e [COUGH]\n\u003e\u003e I had one more comment. Struck me when Judge was talking about the fact that the court was avoiding the question of principle, as it [INAUDIBLE] in doing. And it is interesting to me that it was minorities on both sides that wanted the question of principle decided.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=792.0,821.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nInteresting to me also that the black minority was eager to find a principle which was race-conscious rather than race-neutral. And I wonder whether that's a sign of great confidence, because on the whole, unconfident majority, minorities want race-neutral criteria. It is a sign that they are feeling sufficiently confident, but they can be always conscious.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=821.0,844.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOr perhaps is it so bad that they don't think they have very much to lose. A principle reason for wanting [INAUDIBLE] the mean is the comment that while this panel has done very much better than the Supreme Court has in clarifying the issues, it seems to me that we've all tended to look at it as an educational question.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=844.0,867.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I see Professor Levi turning his back on Attorney General Levi-\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e And treating all of this as though it were a question of educational policy. I don't know what the future of affirmative action is in this country but I suspect that it will not change much.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=867.0,887.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think Robert and [INAUDIBLE] were probably right. [INAUDIBLE] pretty much that they had, and that is probably necessary but very insufficient. It seems to me what's missing from all the discussions I've seen Is the failure to recognize when your discussing professional schools, which is what Davis and are about.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=887.0,906.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe are not really talking about educational policy, but we're talking about admission to a profession. And with respect in line with the Professor [INAUDIBLE] sit on the same committee that my colleagues do, I'm not sure that who should be admitted to the profession is a question that ought to be left entirely to University.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=906.0,926.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhat's more is I tend to think I can make an argument that, for which I have [INAUDIBLE] settle tonight, that there's a constitutional right to practice the profession if one is competent and good, that the states have given the universities a kind of monopoly and a bottleneck on deciding who's going to be admitted to the profession.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=926.0,945.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe have abolished alternative routes into the profession as it used to be when the. And they've given this right to control questions to the professors who's doing, if I may say so, without clear and adequate standards and withhold without any scrutiny And the question I put, is that a good idea?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=945.0,967.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow I want to welcome the point of the view of the black minorities. The issue ought to be not what shall we do to improve admission to professional schools. What shall we do to improve our admission to the professions? Because there are other ways what's more that the universities have, I think, gotten their programs mixed up.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=967.0,989.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIn addition or instead of seeing themselves as guardians of the path into the of a profession. They have other noble purposes. State schools, and I'm talking particularly about them, want to be national schools. They want to be elitist schools. And I'm asking whether a state school has the right to insist on being national and elitist when the result is to exclude many competent people from the profession.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=989.0,1015.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nShouldn't we see to it at least that every state, before it worries about becoming a national and elitist school, make sure that there are alternative routes into the profession? And if it wants to have an elitist law school, it ought also to have a non-elitist law schools, so that minorities are not [INAUDIBLE].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1015.0,1037.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Obviously do not expect any of us to address seriously the questions you asked at one minute ahead. Rather, and of course as you're also fully aware, challenges to the admission practice are already pending in court in a number of federal courts in the United States right now.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1037.0,1059.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI will only respond in one moment and then turn that question over to my good colleague. It is that all of us would like to see discretion committed in every decision to those live persons who share our personal views.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e The effort to any kind of admission to any kind of skill is perfectly understandable if you want to have a line of attack.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1059.0,1095.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt can also be one of the most legitifying systems there is. I simply remind everybody that every major decision in personal life has to be made on a more important criteria of subjective value than it ever is on objects that can be quantified. Whether we love or hate, whether we laugh or cry.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1095.0,1121.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOr what kinds of career choices we make. What kinds of friends we have or never make. On a quantifiable study and if anybody's ever [INAUDIBLE], they will find out that the [INAUDIBLE]. I leave it at that and my colleague can respond [INAUDIBLE].\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE] that's also a good statement of the reason for pluralism in the [INAUDIBLE] nowadays is a core into [INAUDIBLE].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1121.0,1149.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Well, I wanna respond or commend what my friend Professor Hinkins said because it fits so well with what I was trying to say. I should say first that, one of the reasons we emphasize education is because the so carefully to do that. So as not to spill over into the employment areas but Professor Hinkin has just made a speech in which he has subjugated universities.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1149.0,1177.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I said this was one of the things that one might worry about in the long run arising out of this appearance. And of course what I'll say is that there are many ways around it. There should be many ways of entering the profession. It's perhaps unfortunate that universities are cast as the door keepers.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1177.0,1202.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI'm not sure they, firstly, should be at the doors. And I'm not sure they should be working. They do have a responsibility for education, even when it's a profession [INAUDIBLE] medical profession which [INAUDIBLE] of responsibility. Which is not just an educational matter [INAUDIBLE].\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE] Hinkins [INAUDIBLE] I've been concerned about for a long time.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1202.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt goes far beyond the profit case of course, who has the money. And I've objected to it strenuously in my own profession, the legal profession. That the legal profession controls too tightly the admission process and the discipline process, everything about it. It's lawyers deciding what's best for the country in terms of profession, not that they're very effective in that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1230.0,1254.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut that is a debate we have to resolve in addition [INAUDIBLE]. In the meanwhile, the specific context of who should decide the admission standards for a person who's in the profession and the colleges and so on. I believe I would favor [INAUDIBLE] with the university, so long as they show their present good faith.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1254.0,1271.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI'm basically quite proud of the response that the university has had in the last 10 or 15 years. To a crisis which they saw, I think rather sooner than the rest of society, about the failure of society to have a proper diversity and mix. The response was very good.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1271.0,1288.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think it becomes irresponsible [INAUDIBLE] irresponsible, but that [INAUDIBLE] tiny part and it only cuts off a piece that [INAUDIBLE]. If that response becomes irresponsible, then I think the bureaucracy and the legislature or the courts can and should step in. In the meanwhile, while universities are far from perfect in their decisions, I think their good faith manifestation in this area justifies continuing to leave it to them until they make serious mistakes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1288.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFor the moment, I would rather trust them than I would Congress.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE] add one other point and that is that the comes after a long legacy of distrust and many court cases. Which while announcing the proposition immediately following with procedural steps which make it very difficult for programs to be carried on because they are suspect.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1320.0,1357.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt is interesting that Justice Powell indicates that he will assume good things in the universities. Now, how that will be interpreted by district judges and the Courts of Appeal, we don't know. And what the Supreme Court will do, if it ever comes back, we don't know. If we're going to have district judges supervising and inquiring into how a was admitted but b was not because there had been some charge in that faith, that would be a terrible mess.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1357.0,1391.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Could we have two quick questions or comments, one from Robinson and the other from [INAUDIBLE] School of Government Harvard. And then we'll have coffee break.\n\u003e\u003e Yeah, I do [INAUDIBLE], I'd like to ask him what his reaction was to remarks by Ben head of the NAACP and Secretary of HUD, Pat Harris.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1391.0,1419.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBoth of whom very strongly criticized apparently on the grounds that it would have a regressive effect on Affirmative Action programs. Do you take that as being just political rhetoric, or?\n\u003e\u003e There's a certain amount of political rhetoric. I haven't seen what Pat Harris had to say. But it's interesting that Benjamin statement as I understood it was a fairly Optimistic one and that's why we're relying on, and I believe I've said today that more recently at the NAACP convention had a more negative view.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1419.0,1451.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAs has Jesse Jackson and a few other black minority leaders. I'm very concerned when they take that view because it seems to me that encourages the forces that oppose the thing that they, and I for instance, stand for. And that is continued pressure for admission of well-qualified minority students into university admission programs.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1451.0,1473.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhat they do, it seems to me, by taking that tact, by saying Supreme Court has set back the cause of minority rights, is to encourage or put the other way I think it's more accurate. To discourage university officials from carrying forward the program which I think they've now received a green light for.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1473.0,1494.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo therefore, I think it's very important to take a strongly affirmative stand and say that the Supreme Court has authorized, as its language seems to be quite clear. And say, the continuation of the affirmative action programs in universities now and particularly for minority leaders to say they read the opinion.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1494.0,1511.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOtherwise seems to me a [INAUDIBLE] position I was on one of the briefs, friend of the court to the court [INAUDIBLE] valid. In other words, the four Americans that grant an opinion, it's the one that I would support, but I don't think that's very important alone. What is important is to, the Supreme Court has said to go ahead with what is the the broad, mainstream of American education and I think that would work very well.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1511.0,1543.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI'd like to add a point, that having discussed this yesterday at lunch with Martin Jordan and a separate time with Carter. It's very unfortunate that they had to leave today because of the death of their friend, John Wheeler. They would have, had they been here, certainly raised the question [INAUDIBLE] case but its juxtaposition [INAUDIBLE] minorities and also its relation to Proposition 13.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1543.0,1570.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIn other words, they see the [INAUDIBLE] chemistry is building up in one way that's going to be very harmful. And I think at some point You go onto your program you'll be this case into for the representation of their use. You have about 30 seconds for comments or questions please.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1570.0,1592.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e I'll try and make it a quick comment, I think that the secondary issue in the decision, but a fundamental issue is, who shall decide Won't admit it to [INAUDIBLE], to the public. I think Professor Levy suggested that the court choice has further subjugated university decision processes to Congress and to the bureaucracy, but I would take the opposite view.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1592.0,1617.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think that from what I can see of the decision, In holding up the [INAUDIBLE] mission process as a good example of an admission process. The court has suggested that might lead to colleges and universities over some wide range of discretion the power. To decide who is admitted by criteria that the university shall determine and by processes as the university shows.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1617.0,1645.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIn unspecified manners, in manners that are within a broad range take into account factors that can't be objectified, that can't be submitted to any strict formalization. I think that seems to me to be thermal secondary in this case. One that from the point of view of concern of that holistic society is the most important.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1645.0,1671.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI disagree with the in course of suggestion that maybe. Courts, Congress, government and more deeply involved in those processes. There's the place where the performance of universities won. That gives me reason to believe that we would be better off to lead through a pluralistic diverse university community. Decisions about who should be admitted then to try to formalize that could be as big as I just wanna respond very quickly.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1671.0,1703.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI happen to agree with your reasoning [INAUDIBLE] but these opinions of yours is an art form and they have a life of their own and it's susceptible to all kinds of pressure. You don't have to read them in the opposite way and one of the things that I think we have to take account [INAUDIBLE]\nno doubt [INAUDIBLE].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1703.0,1727.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nThey did write rules for example, that you had to teach English to Chinese students and so what they are worried about [INAUDIBLE] they very well come up with rules. Particularly, they are pushed to do to show they are really standing up and fighting away and against that I don't know what is done I just think that [INAUDIBLE].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1727.0,1750.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e A statistic on that and you've probably heard is something like 77,000 pages of new regulation is being used by the government each year. I think the implications of that government [INAUDIBLE] right there [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e One moment on that what is true is that whatever view of the enormously complex problem you personally have, you can find words of encouragement.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1750.0,1779.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e In several [INAUDIBLE]\nof the [INAUDIBLE]\nand on that note, the [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e [APPLAUSE]\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE]\nwhat we're going to do. Then we're going to have Henry Kissinger for the afternoon and the entire morning tomorrow will be devoted to world affairs then we'll go into our [INAUDIBLE].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1779.0,1841.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n[INAUDIBLE]\nIn all types of [INAUDIBLE]\nvalue and [INAUDIBLE]\nbut we wanna give this plenty of time. So what we're gonna do is to ask [INAUDIBLE] to take as long as we need up until lunch to make the initial presentation. We will then have approximately an hour discussion after that then we're gonna call upon [INAUDIBLE] approximately 45 minutes to an hour.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1841.0,1891.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd then we will have in the main part of this afternoon part of our discussion an [INAUDIBLE]. Tomorrow afternoon we will move on to the Middle East and the. I think [INAUDIBLE]\nHis ability to tie these various pieces together [INAUDIBLE] deal [INAUDIBLE] institute [INAUDIBLE] the discussion [INAUDIBLE] this morning.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1891.0,1942.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n[INAUDIBLE] Framework for the comments that I wanna make about jobs and work. I'll try to speak up just a little bit because [INAUDIBLE] and I'll try to weave in comments on both of those subjects as I go along. The Aspen Institute and the Public Agenda Foundation are engaged Integrating a joint project.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1942.0,1969.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n[INAUDIBLE] it's a project that I believe exemplifies in a [INAUDIBLE] the asking contract of [INAUDIBLE]. The thought component is based on two premises the first It's not the traditional way of thinking about it working on employment to. To converge traditional economic political categories to all and all of us.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=1969.0,2006.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd related, perhaps surprisingly at least to me, that this issue is far more important than many observers assume. Including myself until a few years ago, have now become convinced that many of the humanistic values we cherish in our, in the western industrial democracy. Social peace, equity, civility, the dignity of an individual, depend on how we resolve this issue.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2006.0,2041.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd therefore, that there's not simply a matter of manpower statistics. On a unemployment inflation tradeoff, or a question of labor productivity in world trade. But when there is a fundamental political, social, cultural, economic, psychological phenomenon [INAUDIBLE] for it. And what I'd like to do is try to elucidate it [INAUDIBLE] aspects that's on the side.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2041.0,2072.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe action side, the action component assumes that if through this project we can somewhat successfully think through a [INAUDIBLE]. We might be able to come up from a specific policy suggestion and that we might further ensure that these are broadly and effectively communicated. Not simply within leadership circles but also as a basis for public discussion, public engagement, public debate which is public agenda, [INAUDIBLE] activities.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2072.0,2109.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow, the purpose of this morning's session, going over to this afternoon, is trying to try to advance the thought aspect by presenting a framework of thinking [INAUDIBLE] from your insights and discussion. We're at the beginning stages of [INAUDIBLE]\nTo see we are in one respect you can be helpful to make sure about [INAUDIBLE]\nis not between the thought and the action [INAUDIBLE].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2109.0,2158.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nOne feature of this project that is very promising and personally very agreeable to me is the working relation and check what they're doing now. It was a very effective and impressive person and trustee of the institute. Now what Pierre is doing is conducting the counterpart of this study in Europe.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2158.0,2182.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nHe has provisionally selected Sweden, West Germany, and France. Escalates this where these problems are represented in a sharp and acute way and where there's likely to be cooperation, funding, and interest. And he has agreed to follow precisely both the methodology and the timetable that we set here. So then as a result we will truly have an interdisciplinary and project, at least for Europe and the United States.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2182.0,2218.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd then Japan [INAUDIBLE] Professor of Sociology, Chairman of the Department at Columbia University on Japan. [INAUDIBLE] He's working with the project to see to it [INAUDIBLE] so that we will have those various components. I'm going to spend most of my time clearly on the thought component but save a couple of minutes at the end to describe [INAUDIBLE].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2218.0,2247.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nA meeting asking Mister [INAUDIBLE] about financing the future. Again a quick review of the subject of jobs in [INAUDIBLE] from the point of view of change in social trends, I don't want to cover the same ground today. Also, I realize it's not realistic, to presuppose that everybody had a chance to read the summary that Shell sent out to all of.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2247.0,2267.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo I'll compromise and take maybe five to ten minutes to review the recap some of the important social trends that are affecting working jobs today that I mentioned in February. And the new ones, and then get on to another perspective How much I wanna do this topic today.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2267.0,2290.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nHere are some of the forces at work today in the society and social trends that are reshaping the nature of jobs, the composition of the work force, the issue of employment, and the very meaning of work itself. One always has to that the presence and the growth of women enter the workforce in 1950, 18.4 million women, 1977, 40 million.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2290.0,2316.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSince 1950, 60% of jobs has gone to women as a consequence, the two earner family has become the norm here, not the exception. Among husband-wife families that have two or more workers in 1950, about a third of such families, husband-wife families, had two or more workers, and now it's almost 60%.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2316.0,2347.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo, It's the right in the conflict of weapons. But in the next decade, in the 1980s, the white male was worth a indisputable will be a minority [INAUDIBLE]\n16 to 19. The estimates of unemployment range from 48% upward amongst young blacks, 20 to 24, it's about 24%. As against the [INAUDIBLE] of 67 they, Transfer payments phenomenon that are related to this unemployment issue in various ways 10 years ago in 1967.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2347.0,2425.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n$32 billion, about 24% of the about federal budget was allocated to transfer payments of one [INAUDIBLE] in 1977 [INAUDIBLE] 1998 of 45% of the general market. It's a massive increase [INAUDIBLE] if you take good luck at some of these changes. They have affected the composition of the family and I find most stock involved.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2425.0,2454.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNorman Rockwell a stereotype of one working dad and one stay at home take care of the kids mom and one or two children living at home is now some 15%. [INAUDIBLE] Not so, leaving a staggering figure the. If you contrast the official in statistics with estimates of those who would accept a job if were available.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2454.0,2485.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nA very different figure but it's a figure that gives you an interesting perspective on this issue and I wanna come back to it. On the basis of two estimates arrived at in somewhat different ways, an estimate made by Eli Ginsberg and one that we made, our estimate comes to between 24 and 27 million.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2485.0,2508.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n[INAUDIBLE]\nFrom the point of view of the definition of what a job is. The only definition, in effect, was a job is a full-time occupation, for a male, to support a family with a number of dependents. Psychologically to confirm a sex related role of the male as the good provider, and as the good provider head of the household.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2508.0,2553.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWell, that has changed totally in every single one of its dimensions and understand that the implications of a changed definition of a job is fundamental. Another point that I think is of some importance Is the society between wanting a job and being motivated to work after and having the incentives to work out.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2553.0,2578.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAll three are different and all three are somewhat important it seems, for a number of reasons, that almost everyone today wants a paying job. Not everyone however wants to work.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e And there are many people have in effect retired on the job, much obliged other than those who have retired in fact.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2578.0,2601.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e But the provocation, I'm not confused on one hand some evidence of decline in the work ethic. I don't think really all that serious as compared to some of the other factors. But on the other hand enormous increase in the psychological rewards and the demands for psychological type satisfaction.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2601.0,2626.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nPeople demand to fund their jobs, when I was reviewing some of these trends, and General sent out the summary of this discussion. John Gardner was thoughtful enough to write me a letter, to make some points to advance the discussion. I know it's [INAUDIBLE] that I'm just always startled and hardened about the unique kind of wisdom and insight that John Gartner brings to these matters always.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2626.0,2660.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I might take the liberty of reading a few paragraphs from his letter on this issue of the psychological investment that people have on jobs because I think they articulate it much better than I could. And quote, people get a great deal of pleasure just from the fact that the work situation and the jobs situation is a social world in its own right.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2660.0,2681.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOften, more lively and companionable than any other social worldly known. In this respect, the jobs situation may be quite fulfilling even when the work itself does not provide challenge or participation decision. Ironically, this fact does not apply to the mythology of work, so that when people retire, they are generally quite surprised at the real social loss they just sustained.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2681.0,2705.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nMy point is this, If we have to supply very large numbers of jobs in which the functions performed are inherently challenging we're facing an impossible task. But if we recognize that the normal [INAUDIBLE]\nincluding something much more easily supplied namely a social world we might supply it more readily.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2705.0,2726.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow, that's a fundamental point and, if you take that reality into account, but at the same time, the twins or everybody wanted a paid job, because of the symbolic importance of the pay. Then you have a real dilemma that has to be unscrambled in some way. Let me go on with a few more paragraphs another reality of work is that it provides a structure to one's life that most people find valuable that many people simply can't construct on their own.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2726.0,2757.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAgain [INAUDIBLE] associates with work, so working people don't value it when they have it [INAUDIBLE]. The other avenue that led me into the subject of work and jobs was more recent in the problems of Asia beginning when we set out the administration on in 1965. A lot has been done about the money needs of old people but very little imaginative thinking as to the development for how we can save them from boredom.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=2757.0,2786.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd they said not needed [INAUDIBLE] pretty well convinced that everyone should have something to do [INAUDIBLE]. But not necessarily a job in that full time pay [INAUDIBLE] wants a job [INAUDIBLE] a role and in our society, the role. 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And I would love to get into an interpretation of What the issues are there in China, but I don't dare [INAUDIBLE] because of time and because of all the other instant China experts in the room.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518#t=3318.0,3342.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17939/file/73518/transcript/8334/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e But in a way [INAUDIBLE] that the realization that in the United States today we are currently in the midst of a great social political conflict. 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