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It's quite a.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=6.0,29.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e What do you guys do, sell it then?\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Just rent it out for a while.\n\u003e\u003e We really don't have\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Well I.\n\u003e\u003e Thought that for the last session I'll perhaps just got some perspective of the, of some of the problems that are ahead of us.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=29.0,63.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd the. Some of the considerations that we've previously discussed here. The theme that I've tried to develop in this In the seminar is the various elements of international analysis from the perspective of a statesman not from the respective.\n\u003e\u003e Of an outside observer. As I said in an early discussion, the statesmen has to be responsible not only for the best of what can happen but for the worst that can happen.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=63.0,119.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd he has to operate on the basis of assessments that he can now prove true when he makes.\n\u003e\u003e Now, if we take the contemporary American situation, the one point which I think we did not stress efficiently, is that by the late 1960.\n\u003e\u003e All of the elements in international that we have have been describing Soviet relation military strategy, relations to the two countries, all were becoming fluid at the same time.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=119.0,165.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e And most of the assumptions on which our post will form policy have been based, wherein the process of disintegrated.\n\u003e\u003e In the field of military strategy, we were in the process of losing our strategic superiority. In East-West relations, the basic premise of containment. Which really has been our operational policy, that at some magic point.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=165.0,195.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e That we will be working for some magic point of negotiation with the Soviet. And which, there would be a settlement. And after which, our problems would disappear. That was beginning to disintegrate because of what's becoming clear.\n\u003e\u003e That we were in an endless process which had no terminal point.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=195.0,219.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd which would not be ended with a negotiation. You could adjust within that process. You could have better adverse periods. In relations with Europe, it was becoming clear that another assumption of the post war period namely that a strong Europe and Japan would ease transatlantic and transpacific relationship also was not correct.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=219.0,252.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nA strong Europe and Japan. What do, what strong nations have always that? Namely to insist on their own perception of international affairs. The peculiar relationship we had especially with European, to some extent with Japan in which. We thought consultation was the magic solvent of all difficulties and that conversely all difficulties were caused by absence of consultation.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=252.0,289.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThat simply turned out not be true. Consultation was the method by which the weak could gain an influence over the policies of the strong. It was a lobbying effort. It was an European attempt to make itself part of our decision making process. But it could not survive as the only operating principle, the emergence of a strong Europe.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=289.0,321.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIn that sense the goal did not invent the European resistance to us. It exploded it. And in fact if we look at the next ten years we will certainly have more problems with the Germans than we will with the French. Reflecting again both the fact of their power and the fact that they have a much more complicated situation.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=321.0,347.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe relations to the developing nations, we were learning that economic development was not the only answer. Now, it was at any rate not the key to political stability. All of these factors were becoming more or less apparent in the late 1960s. And if we had had a normal evolution of our political process, we could have made piecemeal adjustments to these new realities and maybe we wouldn't have.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=347.0,386.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut at any rate, we might have. And I would have thought that in the Nixon presidency, we probably would have. But then of course, Nixon might not have been elected but for the fact that also prevented a solution of the problems, mainly the Vietnam War. The worse debacle of the Vietnam War, was that it gave Americans a cop out in the simplicity.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=386.0,424.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nEverybody could pretend that if it were not for the Vietnam War, we wouldn't have any other problems. The critics could pretend that everything had been, all our difficulties were caused by a moral failure. And that if we will not govern by a group of criminals and psychopaths which extend to every administration from 65 on.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=424.0,455.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo this was not a partisan matter. If psychopaths and criminals, we wouldn't have a problem. And you still see bad literature continuing with the endless exit treaties of phony documents designed to prove what? That there could be no rational basis for any action. That was taken in that period.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=455.0,482.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOn the other hand. Those who ran the government or those who were sympathetic to the government could also believe that if it were not for the Vietnam War and the particular crisis that it caused. The pattern of the 60s could be, could have been indefinitely repeated. So the real problem these days was that we have the kind of culture revolution for ten years in which we could not really come to grips, with where the intellectual transformation.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=482.0,523.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd in fact, much of our current debate is cast in those terms. The irony is that the, some of the same people who used to be attacked by the liberals for being too [INAUDIBLE]\nare now being attacked by the conservatives for having been too conciliatory. And the relationship with the Soviet Union is perceived in terms that, for example, detoned is the cause of the difficulties rather than the reflection of the situation that existed in the early 70s.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=523.0,569.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow, the biggest issue, it seems to me, that we face. It's the same issue that we faced in the late 1960s, whether we should perceive foreign policy in largely ideological terms or whether we should perceive foreign policy in strategic or geopolitical terms. For Americans, the great temptation is to perceive it in ideological terms.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=569.0,598.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd say conflict was good against evil, as a policy to be pursued by this strenuous exercise of rectitude. And by prevailing through superior moral Maxits. And in this respect, both Carter and Reagan reflect the same aspirations. Carter, when he came in 1976, took office in 1977. Genuinely believed that if he could adopt the human rights faster, he could outflank the Soviet Union in the third world.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=598.0,646.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd that he could therefore thereby, I don't know but he articulated it in this manner to himself. But he could thereby avoid the manipulation or the operation of an international balance of power. That is the essence of the geopolitical approach. Many of the, what is called the new ride, more or less think the same thing.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=646.0,678.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThey don't think in terms of the human rights in the third world. They think in term of a strenuous, focal, aggressive, anti communist, that's why they keep talking about radio-free Europe, voice of America. Which will then, somehow make the Walls of Jericho tumble down. I look at the list of votes on Angola in 1975, and our actions in Angola in 1975 were defeated by a coalition of the extreme liberals and extreme conservatives.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=678.0,726.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd the group around Jesse Helms, including Jesse Helms voted against aid to Angola. Because to them, the ideological issue is the central issue. And in some respects, the ideological approach is a special version of isolationism, that believes by a strong defense and a richer moral posture, we can prevail internationally.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=726.0,764.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIn Carter's case, it was a moral posture that in the underdeveloped world in this case, it is in the east-west conflict. Now, the other approach which I've tend more to associate with is what I've called repeatedly here, the geopolitical affair. Of course, it does not exclude recognizing that ideology is a major factor.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=764.0,796.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd that the ideology of the Soviet Union is hostile to ours. But these hostile ideologies will have to express themselves in operational decisions that are taken day after day. And that in practice mean, that one has to develop some notion of balance of power, equilibrium, vital interest, spheres of influence, whatever you want to call it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=796.0,830.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd without that, according to that approach, one becomes enormously vulnerable. The ideological approach of the 50s, which was represented by John Foster Dulles, it turned out was extremely vulnerable to Soviet peace offensives. Because it's premise is that the difficulties internationally are cause by opposing philosophers. Hence, if one philosophy changes, many of the root causes of difficulty have disappeared.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=830.0,879.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThis is why you got after the Geneva summit made in 1955. A totally different approach in the western and the east. I think that it's probably. Remember, the Highland, yeah. It's probably, it's at least strongly arguable that the Soviets after the desert started, were debating what concessions they might have to make in order to gain a period of peace.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=879.0,910.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd there is evidence that there was at least one faction the public bureau that was willing to go as far. Well, they did make a peace treaty on Austria. And one faction the public bureau apparently was even wiling to give up the position in Eastern Germany or at least they consider it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=910.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe for that reason, that he allegedly advocated that over the year, he advocated it. The mere fact that they advertise this is a possibility of interest. [COUGH] After they met the western leaders, and Geneva. And after they saw that by mere professions of this full attention. The spirit of Geneva developed.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=930.0,965.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOn the way back from Geneva, the Americans, and British, and French were celebrating a new attitude. The Soviets stopped in Berlin and recognized the East German government, which they had never done up to that. Which in effect then sealed the division of Europe and created the existing state of the word.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=965.0,998.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIn other words, the ideological approach runs the risk of oscillating between extremes of intransigence and extremes of conciliation. And has great difficulty developing criteria for measuring where it is at any given point. A more geopolitical approach would recognize that one is in a constant effort to maintain the balance.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=998.0,1036.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd in the constant effort to negotiate a trust in us both simultaneously. It doesn't aim for a terminal point. Because the terminal points will arise, if at all, as a result of very slow and gradual changes. The weakness of the geopolitical approach is that it is really incompatible with the American historical experience.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1036.0,1064.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe've never carried it out, and there's no tradition for it in this country. There's a tradition for it in Europe and in other parts of the world. There is no tradition for it In America. So even if one can demonstrate here that it is intellectually the more valid.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1064.0,1085.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt's certainly the one that gets you over a more extended period of time. This is no guarantee whatsoever that in fact it will be. I would say that the Reagan administration, that this will be the big unstated debate within the Reagan administration. It will never be expressed in those terms.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1085.0,1110.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut, in fact, this is what most of the internal debates will be about, and for which and whatever other issues there are, are surrogate. Of course, if the Soviets will go into Poland, as I think is hardly probable, then that debate is not going to occur. At least, not right away.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1110.0,1137.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt will be deferred for a year or two because there are no choices except confrontation. But it will come up within a measurable period, measurable in historical terms, say in a year or two. Again, this I would take to be the philosophical issue. Then all this host of other issues that I have mentioned will have to be dealt with in some manner.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1137.0,1171.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe cannot, everybody agrees that we have to increase our defences. Not everybody agrees what that means in practice. In my mind, in practice it means that we have to reduce reliance on general nuclear war, even while building up forces for it. And build forces for each new demand.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1171.0,1196.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThat in practice means that we have to go back to the draft in some form, which is not something you say at universities with impunity. But as a practical matter, I think it is, on the one hand it is Not good social policy to have the defense of a country in the hands of its most disadvantaged citizens who are recruited on the basis of purely mercenary consideration.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1196.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think this is a very dangerous and not even very moral position. Secondly, it is practically not possible to hire enough people, to meet this need. The issue of our defense will not be settled simply by increasing our defense budget. Indeed in the present confusion of thinking, simply spending more money for defense will mean that the services will whack it up among themselves.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1230.0,1267.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nUsually for increasingly esoteric weapon systems, which if they're not related to some overall strategy, will not solve the problem with what they're supposed to deal. Second area, I'm just listing problem areas because I want to leave some time for questions. Second area is related to the military one which is, but goes beyond it, which is the problem of alliances.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1267.0,1305.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAs I've said before, the Objective conditions for alliances have Undergone several changes since the war. Before World War II, alliances were forged because individual countries were not strong enough to defend themselves against some threat. And needed the accumulation of power represented by adding several countries together in the same set of political and military purposes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1305.0,1348.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIn the immediate postwar period, this simply was not true. The alliances in which we were engaged were unilateral American guaranteed. Leading to the strange situation that our allies had a disincentive to develop forces of their own, that gave a real alternative to American military protection. It lead to the situation where the attempt to increase European defense was taken as a sign of overall weakness, because it might give us a way out of nuclear war.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1348.0,1387.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe are now, however, in the situation which is more comfortable to the traditional one, where countries have to add together their resources if they're gonna fulfil this strategic necessity. It is absolutely impossible for the Unites States to be the principal contributor to the defence of Europe, the principal defender of the Persian Gulf, the principal defender of Japan.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1387.0,1416.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd play a role in Africa, Central America, all of which are in turmoil, simultaneously, by ourselves. It is absolutely out of the question that we can do this. And the attempt to do all these things simultaneously is going to guarantee failure in several of them. Therefore, in my judgement, Either, We get an agreement with other countries, That they are gonna join us in some of these enterprises or we will have to establish priorities among the areas to be defended.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1416.0,1462.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd put our priority in the key areas or we will have deliberately to reduce our forces in some areas. On the theory that there's nothing, there's no inherent reason why these areas would like to be specific. There's no inherent reason why Europe which used to be able to defeat Russia by itself, why Europe cannot take a greater share of its defense.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1462.0,1489.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I believe that either by agreement or by American unilateral action, something like that has to be brought about in the forseeable future. We have a similar problem in the developing world. I've talked here about the problem of, [COUGH] Of under mining friendly governments in the favor of radical anti-American government.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1489.0,1535.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nGovernments [INAUDIBLE] it actually that represents, but its also becoming clear now in countries like El Salvador and elsewhere. While in Nicaragua, I think we put in a hostile country, a hostile group. I think in, Salvador may be too far gone, but, We have to find a frame work within which we can defend whatever it is that we are wishing to support, other than the assassination of.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1535.0,1571.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd it cannot turn into a pure test of military power and what are definition of a moderate evolution in developing countries is. In the name in which we can group people against modern onslaught that is, I'm not saying I have the answer to them. I'm just saying that is another one of the onslaught problem.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1571.0,1604.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI finally, I think really we face a problem which is at one and the same time domestic and international which has to do with economics. If you look at the history of the west, There's the following phenomenon that told the group last week. Price level in 1940, the prices in 1940 were exactly the same as 1940.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1604.0,1647.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThere have been no inflation at all for a century. The real wages had tripled with all the suffering of the industrial revolution. So that there had been an enormous improvement in the standard of living in the centric. The wage, the prices remained fairly constant they begun to keep up.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1647.0,1681.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut they still remain fairly constant until about the early 1950s and the gross national products increased even more. The reason I mentioned this is there were two attributes to this kind of an economy. One was that the people could plan for the future. There was a point in saving and therefore a motivation for exertion.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1681.0,1725.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSecond, the politics of each of the industrial democracies, all of which had more or less the same evolution. The politics concern how to divide up an increasing gross national product. This man that nobody had to give out anything for somebody to gain. Some groups gained more than others.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1725.0,1757.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut no group was worse off at the end of the ten year period and at the beginning of the ten year period. In fact, all groups were better off at the end of the ten year period, though in some cases the disparity between groups increased. If anybody, not any one person, but any group that compared it's condition at the end of the decade with the beginning of the decade.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1757.0,1783.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nProbably had to come to the conclusion that they were better off, that wasn't enough for social peace entirely, but it was one kind of domestic politic. Now we're facing a situation where, Inflation Reduces its Sundays. And secondly, the gross national product of the industrial democracies has not been increasing for nearly decade.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1783.0,1820.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhenever you read economic pages of a journal of a newspaper today or of an economic journal, the assumption is that the recession will be followed by a recovery. But if you look at the cycle for a decade, the recovery never catches up with the recession. Which means that we are in the opposite situation from the one we were in ten years ago, up to ten years ago.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1820.0,1850.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe fact may be that the industrial democracies are all becoming poorer. I'm not an economist but when savings exceed investment recession is inevitable. The OPEC Nations impose on us more savings than are invested. When you have an annual surplus of $150 billion that defines the inevitability of the recession.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1850.0,1884.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhich is not being spent and for which there is no possible investment. Now that means that all industrial democracies are in some sort of crisis. Then we have another problem which no other bureau has faced, and this makes the domestic economic growth an international run. People talk about the unfair message of competition of Japan.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1884.0,1923.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut if you analyze their method of competition, What it really reflects is a superior organization of their society, and a higher motivation, and therefore, a higher productivity. There is nothing that the Japanese do that is particularly mysterious except that you need great social pleasantness to do it. And you need a partnership, you need a sense that you are part of a joint enterprise.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1923.0,1960.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThere's no reason, Why the reason for the falling productivity in America, which is now less than in Great Britain is social and political. It's not technological. Now therefore, the differential in the organization of countries is going to produce inequalities in economic performance. That is, and that on the one hand creates tensions, increasing pressures for protection, increasing attempts to negotiate limits on exports which are essentially bound to fail.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=1960.0,2009.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIn my experience with negotiating with the Japanese, limiting their exports, what inevitably happens is they draw you into a negotiation, which they string out long enough so that they can shift from what you are objecting to, to some other field effective in it. And by the time you have succeeded in achieving your objective, you have inherited an empty shell.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2009.0,2038.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThey're in some other field. And there is no solution to the problem by negotiation. There is only a solution to the problem by superior performance. That gets to another issue. Most economic theories of international trade, and I don't have a correct theory, but most theories of international trade assume that free trade is highly desirable.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2038.0,2068.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThis is due to the fact that most economic theories were developed at a time when Britain, first Britain had a monopoly on trade. And on technology, and then Europe had a tremendous advantage in technology and trained manpower. When different parts of the world developed high technology, then that differential advantage is lost.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2068.0,2097.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt is impossible that perfectly free trade is to the advantage of everybody, somebody's gonna win the competition and somebody's gonna lose it. And I mentioned the factors only because they are really addressed. What it means at a minimum, is that the industrial democracies have to develop some kind of economic strategy by which they would recapture the net growth in their national product.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2097.0,2131.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThen if one nation is relatively better off than another, it is nevertheless quite bearable, because the social tensions, even in the countries that are relatively less advancing, less rapidly than the others, as long as most of them are advancing, is containable. But if most of industrial democracies are declining, in their gross national product, then the relations between them will become more and more complicated.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2131.0,2169.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd their own domestic policies will become more and more complex. And then you will see constant isolations between extremes and increasing extremes between the various, within various society. In my judgment, the 80s are a period in which many of the conceptual challenges we had in the late 60s, in which we deferred will finally have to be dealt with.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2169.0,2207.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nUnfortunately, against the residue of a debate that never seems to end. And in which new problems, in which domestic economics and international economics merged in an unprecedented way. The heads of state that I know are capable of discussing, maybe not solving but at least they're capable of discussing the first set of issues.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2207.0,2236.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut how to synchronize the economic policies so that they don't produce disaster of domestic tensions for all of them from the temptationists to push your problems into another country, and gets through your next election. That is something that has not even been formulated in a negotiable way, much less dealt with.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2236.0,2268.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo it's hard to predict what's going to happen because one has to see what the administration looks like, and extraneous events like the invasion of Poland could change it, could change many of these premises completely, and make certain decisions in the military field and in the negotiating field a lot easier.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2268.0,2297.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut at any rate, it's fairly predictable, they won't be boring. So let me stop again and take a few questions. Yes?\n\u003e\u003e Throughout the 40s and 50s, and early 60s. The United States was kind of, sort of an object for Europe and Japan as the paradigm of material development.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2297.0,2329.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd that was what other countries stood to, to gain from being associated with the United States. And seeing as how they've caught up with the United States in these material aspects, what's going to be America's strong suit in the future that countries will look towards us for? Is it going to be social aspects or some sort of a political aspect, or what's it going to be?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2329.0,2357.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Well, it's a very good question. Because one of the ways by which you can measure, Our challenge now in foreign policy is that in the 1950s, we had 50% of the world's gross national product. In the 1960s, we had nearly 40% of the world's gross national product.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2357.0,2381.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think it was about 35 to 40, it went down. Now, we have about 21 to 22% of the world's gross national product. Now, this mean that the relative scale of our resources is infinitely less. Secondly, we seem to be in a process very similar to that of Great Britain in the 19th century.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2381.0,2409.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNobody will believe it today or nobody can imagine it today. But in the 19th century, Britain was technologically, by far, the most advance nation. Britain had its own energy supply because coal was the key element in energy, was the key energy resource of the period. And Britain had by far the most advanced industry.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2409.0,2436.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd which was of course one reason why there was free trade because if you had the most advanced industry, you are In a great competitive position. And you can only gain. Then, Germany came along but one of the problems is that you do not notice your spending capital for a long time Britain was still considered a super power by modern standards.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2436.0,2467.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAt the outbreak of World War II, American president still thought of Britain as a super power. I mean that word that makes us. But in 1945 Harry Truman on the way to Potsdam, refused to stop in Britain. Because the secret dream of Americans was that we would play the role that Nero played.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2467.0,2492.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThat we would be the non-committed arbitrator between Britain, which we thought was and, the Soviet Union at that time when British productivity, British technology have all declined in an extraordinary fashion. Now, today I have some charge which I unfortunately didn't bring because I didn't think this would come up.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2492.0,2522.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut if you take the investment in research and development, if you take the increase in productivity for workers, almost any criterion you use the United States is now falling behind. Japan, Germany, France, and even Britain as far as productivity per worker is concerned. Now, the reason it doesn't go up, yet it's beginning to show up now but it didn't show up for several decades is because we started from such a superior base.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2522.0,2567.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n[LAUGH] So, everybody says Japan and Germany are better off than we because we bombed out their industries and they had to establish a new plan At the end of World War II. This is one of those myths that happens now to be true. The average age of an industrial plant in Japan is a little less than ten years.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2567.0,2592.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe average age of an industrial plant in Germany is, I think, 10.6 years. This means that they have rebuild them twice since the war. The average range of hours is 17, 19 years we have simply, Not innovated as much now, that I answer your question. What is it that we're gonna show the rest of the world?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2592.0,2627.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWell, at the end of the war, we were in great shape. We were militarily the strongest, we were politically the most cohesive, and we were economically the most vital. As we are declining in all of these categories, I suppose life in America has still more optimism, more vitality than in most other parts of the world.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2627.0,2656.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut unless we solve these problems, we are going to be in a period of decline that's got nothing to do with optimism or pessimism. That is a fundamental reality until one of the executives has IBM told me that micro chips which we invented. When they're produce in the United States have a rejection rate of 80%.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2656.0,2687.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhen they're produced in Japan, has a rejection rate of 10%. That's a question of social values, that has nothing to do with technology. It has to do with pride in one's work, because since we invented it, it can't be the Japanese do it better than we do. So, there's no you define the problem that we absolutely serve as a nation now, if you compare our problem with the Soviets.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2687.0,2721.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe Soviets are willing to open all of these categories than we are in their problems of productivity, their problems organizing their economy. Their problem of social cohesion in every one of these categories is worse in the Soviet Union than with us. But in relation to other nations, we are not solving the problems fast enough to prevent massive domestic problems as the years go on.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2721.0,2761.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Returning back to argument raised about two strategies, I don't quite understand why we should be using compatible in fact I kind of vision or certain [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e You mean the ideological that's right. And strategic and gain to advantages and warning in that a logical element to help you to rally with domestic support while the geopolitical element will help you to device and adhere a geostrategy which you can be oriented towards producing a sort of strength.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2761.0,2791.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd conversely ideological element can help you to capitalize on the Soviet domestic problems sort strength and-\n\u003e\u003e Up to a certain point.\n\u003e\u003e Up to well which can at least help you to implement your own geopolitical designs we think that they would be very much complimentary.\n\u003e\u003e But in practice you're quite right, this is in fact what one should aim for.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2791.0,2812.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut in practice what has happened is that the ideological element is tied to our isolationist tradition and it tends to think that one can win ideologically as long as one has a nuclear strength of this country and the ideological conservatives would tend to be in favor of a very high defense budget.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2812.0,2837.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd the very militant stance, but they would not necessarily be the great compulsion to apply the Ethiopia or Iran or Afghanistan or any particular place in the world, you are right that for analytical purposes I stated them as antithetical where in fact they can be-\n\u003e\u003e Complementary.\n\u003e\u003e They can be complementary.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2837.0,2865.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Just to reference history I would say you can hardly find an example of Bran's strategy to not have some UCI to ideological element. If you look at every successful empire in the past, there were certain ideological overtone, which helped to rationalize its strategy Roman Empire.\n\u003e\u003e That's true.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2865.0,2883.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe only problem is that The. That if we go for an empire and they go for an empire a war is inevitable. So we need the Messianic element to give us the strength to do difficult things. But we have to recognize also that what this history in the nuclear age evolves as it did in the Roman period.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2883.0,2916.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt may blow everything to smithereens. We have to contain the Soviets without war. If we get positive advantage.\n\u003e\u003e Don't you perceive a national trend in the international system [INAUDIBLE] question to generally would be? In fact some writers would the nuclear age. He has a natural propensity one security center, and the Soviets understand him just as well as we do.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2916.0,2946.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo you cannot.\n\u003e\u003e No, but if it will not happen with us. [INAUDIBLE] Then there'd be a war. And maybe that's what the Chinese did. And maybe that's what's going to happen. And we shouldn't have to be ready for a [INAUDIBLE]. If you studied what that means, as you have to when you're in government, it's a different matter than it was even in 1930.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2946.0,2984.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd it was.\n\u003e\u003e Yeah, it seems that the state of technology is gonna change. However in the next 30-40 years, their offensive domination back to the stage of defense. Answer delegation, the war might not necessarily be as suicidal or holocaustal as being portrayed now.\n\u003e\u003e Yeah, but in that case, you have a different process.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=2984.0,3014.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo you then would, even conventional wars, with the. It used to be that there's be four wounded or five wounded to every dead in a conventional war, now there are more deaths, it's at the best even because even conventional weapons have become so. So if you think what the conventional weapons of under the conditions of what the defense is.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=3014.0,3051.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAll I'm saying is. Situation at the end of [INAUDIBLE]. Although as a historical trend, it's certainly [INAUDIBLE].\nAlso I wouldn't want to live in a world, even if it were unbiased, it's all run from one [INAUDIBLE]. That tends to produce the worst kinds of [INAUDIBLE].\nCan't say that the Roman Empire became a more admirable institution under [INAUDIBLE].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=3051.0,3085.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH] Yes.\n\u003e\u003e How do you think, if the Soviet Union\n\u003e\u003e were to invade Poland, what do you think the best method the United States would have to respond to that?\n\u003e\u003e Well, on the one hand, I think the invasion of Poland, if it happens, and I think it probably will happen, is a sign of the inherent bankruptcy of the Communist system.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=3085.0,3112.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nCourse here they've been in power for 35 years, controlling most of the means of communicaid. And it would me that in four out of the six east European satellites they've had to use military force, to maintain a totalitarian power party in office. Then in a country which is after all fairly rich in resources, that have proved again that this communist economy simply does not work.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=3112.0,3146.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo and finally what seems to be happening and the reason the Soviets. Probably willing to be is that the communist parties disintegrated and that happened previously in Chezlovakia, it happened in Hungary. It may be happening in China right now. Now so on the one hand it's society on the other hand we cannot possibly live in a world.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=3146.0,3171.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIn which the Soviet Union moves into Afghanistan one Christmas, into Poland another Christmas. And the doctrine is that they have a right to impose a totally unworkable system on neighboring countries. Highland was on Nightline the other day.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Monday night after the football game. I was in Texas, and they were an hour earlier, so I saw him around 11:30.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=3171.0,3211.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nHe was on with the Soviet commentator, who simply said these unions are asking more than Poland is producing, and therefore, this isn't right. And therefore something has to be done about it. But, rather the British Unions has been asked into more than [INAUDIBLE].\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e For 30 years, and does that entitle the United States to occupy Britain?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=3211.0,3242.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhich is, you know, not much more populus than In Poland is. Now what should be our reaction? I think we have to make them pay a horrendous price for going in there. I already I think it's a tactical mistake to go to NATO and ask them for a theoretical answer because we would get a lousy answer but.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=3242.0,3274.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut I already see that the world is singing it's praise. Administration that is leaving office and is therefore trying to stick its successor. Was looking softer than they were. But what would they say, should we walk out of the Madrid Conference or should we use the Madrid Conference to castigate the soviet?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=3274.0,3297.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIf the soviet is going to fall on believe me they are ready to be castigated.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e They have counted off there's no.\n\u003e\u003e We have to walk out of the European Security Conference. There is no possible other alternative. My own view would be which will be done all trade credits to the Soviet that we should get.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=3297.0,3322.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nInsist that our NATO allies cut off trade to the Soviet Union and to all Eastern European countries. That we cut off all our agricultural exports to them. And at dependent, and that we would insist on that, that if any of our NATO allies don't show ahead. But we make sure they put, I don't know what I would do but we have plenty of things we could do.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=3322.0,3356.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e No I'm serious, if that is not done, if the occupation of Poland ends the way Czechoslovakia did in Afghanistan Then we're going to live in a world in which, sooner or later, there will be an explosion. The two great dangers are excessive weakness or excessive rhetorical intransigence.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=3356.0,3385.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Right.\n\u003e\u003e But if they go into Poland, a country of 35 million, that means that they've used military force now in East Germany, Poland, Hungary, and Czechoslovakia in a 20-year period. That's too much, plus Afghanistan last year.\n\u003e\u003e Mm-hm.\n\u003e\u003e That just cannot be accepted, but I'm sure that people will not go that far, yeah?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=3385.0,3421.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e General Haig was your assistant and close associate for many years. It looks like he may become the next secretary of state. I would assume that his approach to foreign policy would be very similar to yours. Can you tell us if there are any significant differences?\n\u003e\u003e Well, when somebody is speaking of deputy, he does not advance to that position to begin with by accentuating the differences [INAUDIBLE].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=3421.0,3448.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e I mean, with your policies, because after all, while you can have free thought among associates, your deputy is somebody who has to carry out the basic line of your policy. So I would have to say that I do not remember, from my association with General Haig, any significant differences in policy.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=3448.0,3480.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNor do I think the record would show that there were any. In fact, not only no significant differences, I can't think of any differences in policy. On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised, when he becomes secretary of state, that we will see facets of his thought that he did not necessarily have an opportunity to express when he was my deputy.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=3480.0,3508.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut I think extremely highly of him. His general approach would certainly be very similar to mine. What conclusions he would draw from case to case, I couldn't tell you. That, of course, is harder to predict. Yeah?\n\u003e\u003e Returning to the Soviet-Poland issue, I don't understand how it's conceivable that the Soviets would go into Poland, because one reason is that Poland's economy is in such bad shape.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=3508.0,3543.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd if the Soviets do go in there, then they're gonna be saddled with taking care of that economy.\n\u003e\u003e Yeah, but the Soviets don't look at this as an economic problem. The big problem for the Soviet Union is twofold. One, to have a free trade union movement in a communist state, this means that the workers are represented against the Communist Party.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=3543.0,3576.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow, according to communist theory, I mean, the Catholic Church could not accept a priesthood that deals with the Vatican from a position of total independence. It is totally contrary to the prevailing philosophy. In a communist state, the Communist Party is considered to be the highest form of organization of the workers.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613#t=3576.0,3611.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/18008/file/73613/transcript/8551/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFor the workers to be in a position of potential confrontation with a Communist party is something they can't accept, because if they accept that, what's the function of the Communist Party? 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