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Although I'm taking this year off, my pronouns are he and his and I am a co-founder of Invisible Hands, which is a newly formed nonprofit group of thousands of volunteers delivering food, medicine and other essentials to those most at risk during the pandemic, including the elderly, the immunocompromised, the sick, people with disabilities, people experiencing food insecurity and more.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=25.98,51.57"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, so what was was the impetus to thinking, oh, this is this is something that this is a problem and this is a problem that I that I can solve it on?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=52.31,60.69"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely. Um, well, I just gotten back to New York City from Philadelphia, where I had been leading a voter registration trip. And it's kind of hard to get people super excited about voting during the midst of a global pandemic. And we had been staying at the homes of a bunch of retired people, you know, in their 60s or 70s. And it felt really unsafe to go out, register a bunch of people to vote, and then all coalesced back at the homes of these elderly people. And they were super kind about it and chill about it. But, you know, I felt like I wanted to do something in return, if not for them than for people like them. And similarly, you know, I live in New York, and pretty much as soon as I got back from Philadelphia, things started getting real bad and we went into lockdown mode and I felt like I was seeing my city shut down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=61.02,109.23"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And meanwhile, you know, my father is a doctor and he was going into work working these 19 hour shifts every single day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=110.31,116.16"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I remember just feeling so moved by him and by the other medical professionals and grocery store workers and public transportation workers risking their lives to help out the rest of us during a time when we needed it. And then meanwhile, there I am sitting on my bed watching Netflix, feeling like I've got all this time on my frequently wash hands. And there's got to be more that I can be doing to serve my community. And so I know I wanted to do something good, but I didn't know what it was. And that was when I saw a post on Facebook from a friend of mine, another yellow Samon Pelicano, who said, you know, she was just saying is, does anybody know of a service that I could volunteer for that would deliver food to the elderly when they're in need? Because I'm looking for some good to do right now. And people were commenting on that post saying, sounds like a great idea. I'd love to volunteer for that. Let me know if you hear something like that. And no one really seemed to know what that organization was, though. So I reached out and I said, what if we made that organization? So we built a website, we passed around a couple of fliers. We put out the call to action on social media. And within 72 hours, we had over thirteen hundred volunteers signed up. And we thought, A, that is incredible and such a testament to our communities ability to come together. Right. And to do some good in a world that feels so bad at the same time. It's a huge logistical challenge and we now need to figure out, OK, it's not as group texting our friends being like, hey, my neighbor Ethel said she needs some food. Anyone want to take it? You know, it had to turn into something much more institutional and legitimate very quickly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=117.67,207.97"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the same time, you know, the immediate crisis of covid-19 was also paired with a growing and emerging crisis of food insecurity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=210.54,220.26"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so when we got our first, you know, fifty dollar donation, I mean, I started freaking out. I was like, what am I going to do with all this money? Right. I'm a college student. Fifty dollars will buy you a whole lot of pizza and beer, but not much else. And so I thought, OK, well, obviously we have a lot of money. We'll put it back into the community through a subsidy program. And so we began a program to essentially offset the cost of groceries by up to 30 dollars per family per week for anyone who said that they needed it. We didn't institute any kind of barrier to it because we felt like ultimately you'll either over include or under include and we would rather over include than limit this service and bar some people who would need it but can't prove that they need it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=221.31,258.75"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we started this program and, you know, the good news was we were able to help a lot of people, it became very popular.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=260.14,265.75"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The bad news was I think we began the program on day four of our organization. And pretty much immediately, you know, homeless shelters started calling us, asking us if we could sponsor their entire food budget. Three one one was referring people to us. Bernie Sanders emailed out my personal phone number to his panelist and said, call this number for free food. Didn't specify New York didn't specify free deliveries, just call this number. And so my phone just started ringing off the hook like, hey, I'm in Fort Worth, Texas. Can you deliver me? Like, No, please leave leave me alone. I'm trying to sleep. And so it just quickly grew out of scale. And we were a couple of days old. We were shelling out like six times what we were taking in during the day. We would have been bankrupt in like two days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=266.53,304.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we had to shut down the subsidy program. But the crisis of food insecurity has continued to an immeasurable degree. One in four New Yorkers is now food insecure. And you're seeing, you know, more children who are food insecure, more elderly people who are it's a real, real problem. And so while we don't necessarily have the funding to solve the world's food crisis ourselves, we do have is a sizable volunteer base.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=305.53,330.01"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so we've partnered with food pantries and mutual aid organizations and religious institutions, places that have either food or funding. And then we can provide the people power on the ground to get that food where it needs to go. And so, you know, while this started with a very, you know, simple some I call it naive dream of I want to help my neighbors get them the services that they need. It's quickly grown from nascent crisis response into operational nonprofit organization in a remarkably short amount of time. And I think that that is a true testament to the grit and perseverance of our volunteers and the desire of our community at large to do some good right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=330.7,370.45"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm curious, just hearing you talk about the quick expansion, almost like the ballooning beyond like the ability to sustain it. So what I'm just curious if you could talk briefly about the sort of advantages of a small scale, because obviously there are quite clear limitations, which is you can't serve New York and Fort Worth, Texas and Daytona all times of night. But there must also be some advantages, like you're saying, tapping into this this wellspring of desire to volunteer and help, maybe that if things were organized on a larger scale and it sort of seemed to be someone's specific job, you know, being that that wellspring doesn't necessarily get activated as quickly, would you? Would you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=372.01,414.91"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely. And I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=415.87,416.95"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Breadth and depth aren't necessarily at odds, but time is limited, and if you're focusing on one, you can't necessarily be focusing on the other. And so when you're faced with the opportunity cost of where do I spend my time, you have to pick do I want to be a really great mom and pop shop or do I want to go all out and try to be Starbucks? And when we were starting this organization and we were getting outreach from all across the United States, as well as in Malaysia and Kenya and Mexico and Canada, people wanting to start these organizations there, we were very interested, but we also felt like, look, we're six days old. We don't know what we're doing here. We need to we don't want to be the fire fest of nonprofits. Right. We want to be able to set ourselves up sustainably and then expand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=418.47,457.71"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so I think, you know, that you don't need to choose between the two, but you need to make sure that you have something to expand before you expand it. And I think that in terms of the on the ground impact, you know, I will say personally, in all honesty, it's been tough because I have not had the time to complete deliveries in a really long time. And that is the part of the organization that is most fulfilling because it's closest to the ground. It's where you get to see the impact. And so I can look at numbers in a spreadsheet and say, oh, we did X deliveries today or we recruited Y new volunteers today. But that doesn't really give you the same sense in your heart of what's happening. And I think that that is a struggle that a lot of nonprofits have to contend with, is that you set out with the mission in your heart and then you have to keep your head on straight and and manage it from an administrative point of view which can take you out of it. And so I think in that way as well, there's a there's a bit of a difference and a disconnect. But, you know, a lot of organizations are serving much, much smaller regions than we are. Particularly a lot of mutual aid groups will serve even a block or a small neighborhood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=458.94,525.96"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And while we aren't able to be to dig our roots as deep into the ground as some organizations like that, what we are able to do is partner with those groups and leverage their resources in their community and provide them with the support that they need, given our resources, our name recognition, et cetera. And so it's a lot of communication with organizations that do have those roots in the ground of their community and see how we can be of service to them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=526.89,552.48"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So my question was on, you know, there's a burgeoning number of challenges that you face that are kind of organizational challenges that you see you're talking about with in the beginning. You know, you're kind of operating in the ground. You're you're helping people deliver door to door. And then suddenly there's these all these different kinds of people that you have to manage and questions that are coming up and questions of partnerships, those sorts of things. And it's a really different sort of skill set that that that requires. What what's helped you kind of develop that skill set you have had to do? Have you done research that was related to kind of working organizations? Have you done stuff in the past that was related to that? Where were the people that you knew that you could contact who could sort of mentor you through this this process? You know, what contributed to your navigation of this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=555.38,600.74"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, absolutely, it's a great question and, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=602.88,605.97"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I've been very lucky and blessed to be able to attend Yale and learn there, but the greatest educational experience I've had my entire life has been these past six months.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=607.95,615.45"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have learned so much from nonprofit leaders and political leaders and for profit leaders and leaders in the food insecurity space, whether they have personal or professional experience with it. I've learned a lot about nonprofit law from pro bono counsel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=617.34,632.64"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, so many people reached out in the early days because they saw what we were doing. They liked our mission and they knew that I was a college student. Right. And I well, I had that heart in me. I didn't necessarily have the the skills or the experience to compensate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=633.12,645.84"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so, you know, it I was very blessed to have, you know, engineers reach out and say, I can build you this kind of back end system or this app. And, you know, a team of 11 lawyers at a big law firm say we can be your pro bono counsel, you know, and so they were able to provide me with guidance and advice. And also, to be frank, sometimes the practical action needed to make this organization run, to allow us to focus on the mission. And I think that when it comes to nonprofit management, that is often what a lot of nonprofits need because they have to stay laser focused on their mission. And so having kind of ancillary features that other organizations can provide to build out the legal structure or the technological structure can be a huge boon to an organization like this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=647.55,694.71"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you know, if anything, I think I've learned very clearly that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=697.73,701.87"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anyone who is successful and I think Invisible Hands has been successful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=703.92,707.07"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No one does it alone, and it has been such a powerful reminder of the power of people and the power of large groups to accomplish great ends. That change doesn't happen from the top down. It happens from the bottom up. And whether it is political power or, you know, grassroots movements or, you know, just delivering groceries, those are the things that anyone can do and that anyone has the power to make a really substantial impact on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=709.37,737.63"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So oblique question, which is how?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=739.25,742.37"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The name of the organization is meant to be sort of a reassertion of the idea that Adam Smith discusses a sort of redirection of it, or is it purely coincidental?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=745.59,755.04"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, the origin story of invisible hands was it was probably 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning. And neither me nor my co-founder, Sumant, had slept in quite some time. And we had been trying to figure out an organize an organizational name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=757.14,771.48"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One of the thoughts that we had was we were trying to appeal to young people and someone suggested instead of Netflix and chill suggested net fix the ill. And so we promptly turned that one down for a multitude of reasons. But we were we were looking for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=772.29,788.01"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We were looking for something else to do, and she literally texted me like 2:00 in the morning and just I have the text.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=789.54,795.39"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's just like invisible hands, what have we called invisible hands? I was like, OMG, I love that. Now I must sleep. So while it was not a direct reflection on Adam Smith's language, we did we did realize that later on and felt that it actually was somewhat fitting that, you know, we are not trying to compete with Estacado or Fresh Direct or these other delivery organizations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=795.73,816.24"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They have paid workers who who need money and we don't at all want to stiff their workers by providing a volunteer service. We want to go where the market can't go. And so in that way, I think it is somewhat reflective of the limitations of the market and the need for a vibrant and strong nonprofit sector. But then also the notion of invisible right, that we are not making direct contact with the people to whom are serving. We're always down six feet away. We're wearing masks, we're wearing gloves, et cetera, adapting as the CDC guidelines change.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=817.02,848.34"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And yet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=850.65,850.92"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, if you look at our logo, it's two hands coming together, right, and it is this organization is not only about feeding the hungry, but also satiating that deeper hunger that comes with social isolation, that social isolation can be as dangerous as smoking 15 cigarets every day. And engaged social contact can reduce your risk of an early death by up to 50 percent. So it has tangible, not only emotional but mental and physical impacts on someone's well-being. And so when we are completing these deliveries, a lot of our recipients are living alone and they just need a friend. I mean, we get calls to the call center all the time from people who say, I don't need food, I just need someone to talk to. People are so lonely right now and they need to know that someone cares about them. And so we're able to provide that that support system for them. You know, I I've made so many friends during this pandemic, people I've never met in person, but about whom I know intimate details and who know intimate details about me because we've built this weird kind of bond in this digital era through a common recognition of our shared humanity. You know, I got an email actually from a woman just a few weeks ago who she said she lived in Michigan and her father lived in New York and he had been diagnosed with covid. He was in his 80s. She had no way of reaching him. He lived alone. He had a social worker who used to come by, wasn't coming by anymore, and he had no way of getting food and he was feeling desperate. And she heard about us on TV and she reached out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=852.51,947.39"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And his volunteer hunter would come to his apartment every week, drop off food, drop off medicine, and then they would just sit on either side of his door and they would just talk about their lives and their fears and their joys. And they became friends. And she said, you know, even though he died and he passed away of covid a few months after. Your volunteers help was not in vain, and you were able to provide him with some reassurance and relief and comfort and friendship in his last days. So when thinking about the impact, right, a lot of non-profits, they want quantitative data on the impact that you're having and that's important. I'm not knocking that. But there are certain intangible factors. That have such a ripple effect that when you show someone kindness and decency and friendship, it it spreads and it has a real impact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=948.98,1009.34"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And right now, at a time when the world is pulling us apart, something as simple as delivering groceries can be a really powerful way to pull us together, because it's only by pulling together that we'll pull through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1010.21,1022.75"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right, and then to sorry, I don't mean to monopolize guys, this is this will be my last question for a bit, but to bring it slightly back to to Yale and the theme of the overarching theme of this episode. So here in Seabrooke, our head of colleges is Tom Near. And one of the things he really urged students to think about at the end of last semester because of the changes on campus and how it would not be, the whole point was that you only get eight semesters at Yale. And so do you want to substitute what what could be an inferior semester for one of those? And so he's saying, you know, think about whether next year will be whether taking the time off a gap year will be an interruption to your education, in which case, you know, you can interrupt it and go right back to it, start again or versus a disruption.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1024.15,1077.97"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so that's kind of how I was thinking about people's there was a framework through which I was reviewing people's decisions to take gap years. But this is kind of neither one of those things is not quite an interruption. It's kind of an opportunity. It's not not a disruption either. So I'm curious about how you weighed sort of the weighed your options or how you went about sort of calculating the calculus of deciding whether to try to manage this while you were taking doing coursework or whether to put it off or try to like try to have someone else work on it. Just how you went about deciding to take the leap?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1079.77,1115.29"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, it's a great question. And, you know, for me personally, it was a question of how necessary am I to invisible hands and how necessary is invisible hands to the world. And the answers to both of those questions felt like substantially. And so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1115.98,1133.92"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I decided that it felt like both the educational value of school and the experiential value of school had been drastically diminished and meanwhile the opportunity for service had been so greatly amplified that it almost felt like a dereliction of duty to not continue with invisible hands. And it became readily apparent to me that. You know, I was working 12 or 13 hour days every day, no weekends, no days off. So it was there would not have been time to do school as well, and certainly not to do it in in any way. That would have provided me with the experience that I want to get out of school and learn a lot and see friends, etc.. But, you know, the truth is, a lot of young people aren't returning to college in the fall. And, you know, some people aren't even allowed back to school. And the difficulty with that, right. More more broadly than just me is that. We GenZE and millennials are going to bear the brunt of this economic disaster as well as this health disaster, and so we are going to find it a lot harder to get jobs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1135.77,1203.8"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this is after a lot of millennials are already saddled with the first Great Recession in 2008. And so we now are just left scrambling.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1205.18,1212.95"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And yet, as tech friendly and lower risk people, most in need of a job, I think that millennials engineers are actually uniquely situated to provide a critically needed workforce during this crisis, you know, to to provide whether it's delivering groceries or contact tracing. We are among the best able people to do that, both both due to health reasons and just due to our technological adaptability more broadly. And so I think what you're seeing is a lot of young people doing a lot of great work despite the odds being somewhat stacked against them. Right. Whether it's, you know, invisible hands or, you know, of Shifman creating, you know, 17 year olds creating this covid tracker, young people organizing protests against police brutality and racism in the police force or even, you know, teens on ticktock and trolling a Trump rally, which may not be public service and the most common sense of the word, but certainly I would count it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1214.33,1268.69"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, you know, so I think that you you're seeing a lot of young people step up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1269.77,1273.97"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think, you know, there is certainly more that our government can be doing to support that, whether it's by expanding AmeriCorps, you know, creating a youth AmeriCorps. And that's an idea that's been bandied around for a long time and I think could actually have huge bipartisan appeal. Right. It promotes a sense of patriotism that is more generally associated with the Republican Party while also rewarding service and equity, which, you know, more typically liberal ideal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1274.87,1297.97"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so I think that that could actually be a really fruitful policy to inspire and encourage a new generation of young leaders and also set them up for, you know, job opportunities in the future so they don't just get passed over because they weren't able to get a job or they weren't able to stay in school right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1298.54,1312.94"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, you know, well, for me, it was a relatively easy decision because I had this fantastic avenue through which I could pursue service. For a lot of families. There's not that option, right. It's you go to school and we shell out a ton of money for not a whole lot of educational or experiential return or you stay home and there's not a whole lot of jobs for you. I mean, it's Eximbank. It's impossible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1315.04,1336.1"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think that the answer to that could really be the pursuit of service to others. And that is, I think, what Invisible Hands has been able to do to activate and to strike while the iron is hot. But I think you're seeing a growing movement of people who reject the old notion of when times are bad, you turn it inward. Right. You stay at home. Right. We were even being told, be a hero, stay at home. And I understand the importance of distancing. But I think what you're seeing is a lot of young people saying, no, I'm not going to turn inward, I'm going to be responsible and wear a mask and all that good stuff. But I'm going to look outward and see how I can be of service to others. And that's why I ultimately decided to take a leave of absence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1337.6,1379.57"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So earlier, we're talking about how how demanding this work is. There's a lot of pressure from different organizations, from individuals calling you. There's a lot of hours that you put into this this organization. And it's it's tough to to think about your own mental health sometimes. Right. So I'm wondering what you do for your own mental health, but also, you know, with with covid and with taking a leave of absence is a lot harder to connect with, with friends, with current students. You can't see them on campus in the same sort of ways. So what would sort of things do you do do to try to stay connected with these different communities and to take care of yourself when when you're already doing so much for others?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1381.01,1421.57"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's a great question, and that's the thing I've been thinking a lot about lately as we just passed our six month anniversary of the founding of Invisible Hands, and I realized I literally have not taken a day off since that day. It has been pedal to the metal nonstop, incredibly invigorating. And that is the kind of work that I like to do that is rewarding for me. You know, before I answer that question, I'll just say, you know, I think a lot of our volunteers, they go outside.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1422.98,1450.71"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's scary to go outside these days and they come home and they think, like, is this really worth it? Is it making a difference? And then they log into our workspace and they'll go into the job well done channel. And you'll see posts of pictures and cookies and little songs that recipients left for their volunteers, notes of thanks and gratitude and warmth and love, and they realize that it really does make a difference. And then they put back on their mask and they go outside and they do it again. And so I think that part of preserving your mental health during something like this is realizing the on the ground impact. And that's a tough thing to do when you're in an administrative role where your time is spent doing fundraising and setting up your legal structure. That's not stuff where you can immediately see an impact on the ground. And you understand theoretically it's important, but it takes you out of it a little bit and it makes you feel like you're still stuck in some dead end job where you're working constantly and you're not seeing any impact. But I think that the more that you can recognize how you've touched other people and be grateful for that, the more sustainable your own mental health will be. But I will say, you know, it has been these last few weeks, it has gotten tougher and tougher. I have worked harder than I've ever worked in my whole life, and I am grateful for that. But it has definitely come at a cost, you know, to my family and my friends. I mean, I rarely eat dinner with my own family. I usually eat dinner right here while I'm working. Same thing with lunch and breakfast. And so, you know, the only time I leave my room is like, go to the bathroom and then I come right back and then hop into bed. And so that's that's definitely been tough. And, you know, what I'm realizing is the importance of of self care that you cannot pour from an empty cup and that if you are going to serve others, you have to make sure you are in a place to do so. I don't know. I'm thinking about this, but there's a it's it's frustration. I guess I could be thinking about this. You know, they talk in Judaism about tikkun olam to repair the world. And that is our mission, is to pursue justice and to repair the world, to make life better for others. But part of that mission is you can't heal even if you can't save the world. That doesn't excuse you from doing your little part. Before you can save the world, you have to save your country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1451.16,1599.27"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And before you can save the country, you got to save your state. And for that, you got to save your city, your block and your family. And before you can do that, you have to take care of yourself. And it is tough when you are trying to be of service to others to also remember to be kind to yourself. And I struggle with that a lot, with the. The golden rule is to treat others as they want to be treated, and sometimes you have to remember, treat yourself like you want to be treated. And that is a tough thing when other people are struggling a lot more than you. And you have to remember that self care is also in service of that goal of service to others. And so, like, you know, tomorrow I'm going to go visit some friends and take a week chill, which I'm very much looking forward to, and it will be lovely. I will get some sleep finally. Praise the Lord and you know, and hopefully come back refreshed and reinvigorated for the work ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1599.72,1648.57"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so speaking of sort of navigating the sort of valley between saving the world and preserving oneself in the demands that are going to be placed on you next year, I suppose, when you return, what sort of structures are you putting in place or planning to put in place so that the work, the organization, as you were saying earlier, it's your essentialness to the organization, at least listens to the point that you can finish your your college career here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1649.96,1683.2"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. And, you know, it's a fantastic question and one I have not fully answered yet in my own mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1683.63,1689.95"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And also, you know, one that I think it will will require a decent investment of thought. And also, you know. I didn't intend to be a nonprofit executive, I just wanted to help my community and it was easiest to pursue that through this structure and I was, in fact, very reluctant to pursue any kind of hierarchical structure. I kind of liked the communist Skynet nature of dealing with things. And then you realize, oh, that is super, not an effective way for communication or for anything to get done. And so you kind of adapt into this hierarchical structure just out of necessity. But in terms of planning for the future, because I've got one year left and a better finish that friggin year, my pants are going to murder me. So my plan is to, over the course of the next year, decrease the number of hours that I have to work for this organization to run effectively and well without compromising the furtherance of the mission and also raise enough money so that we can hire someone to replace me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1690.34,1753.79"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we have, I think, six people on payroll right now, but I'm still a volunteer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1754.27,1757.87"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so, you know, the goal is that we can keep our budget going and increase the budget sufficiently to pay someone to take over my role so that I can then, you know, serve on the board and obviously in an advisory role and do part time work, but also pursue my studies and go into whatever field I do essentially eventually want to go into. So it's about decreasing my hours and then raising the money to compensate someone else to come in and take over for me, because I don't think anyone, even if we do pay them, is in the right mind, is going to work this number of hours as a as a job, unless they are, you know, a college student with no family and nothing better to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1759.55,1794.02"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I want to just touch on your earlier comment on the net fix the ill, I think I'm glad you guys didn't go with it, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1796.78,1803.56"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, definitely a good go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1803.86,1804.76"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, it's a good call. But the other day, I do think what struck me is you're talking about your blend of sensing your heart and your duty and how it puts plenty of an onus on you and your time schedule. He also mentioned that next week won't be able to relax a bit. What are you looking forward to in that have a bit of time away from work? And also in these past months, for me at least, I've been at home with my parents. I've realized some hobbies or things I like to do. So the Spanish telenovelas, those are great. What do you like or have been able to do? Of course, you're very busy schedule, but you look forward to in the next few months or so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1805.06,1839.44"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's a great question. I strongly recommend that you watch Jane the Virgin fantastic show my mom has my mom OK? Yeah, you should get into that fantastic show. I think some things I'm looking forward to is honestly what you described, finding hobbies like when I when I say it, like I do not live as loud. It is not an exaggeration. And I'm looking, you know what? I'm really looking forward to looking at something that is more than three feet away from me. Do you have that thing where it's not even just zoom fatigue, but it's just like you close your laptop at the end of it? Like, my eyes do not work anymore. I literally cannot see anything around me. I am blind. It's yeah, it's definitely I'm definitely looking forward to, you know, going on hikes and, you know, spending time with people I care about without getting stressed every time I hear my phone ring. And you know, that is the nature of a crisis response is being consistently on coal and people need things immediately and desperately. The unique nature of this crisis is that we are trying to do a crisis response while the crisis is happening. It feels like a little bit sometimes like, you know, bringing essential services to people while the tsunami wave is still cresting. And so I think that that makes this crisis unique and makes it uniquely situated for activism, fatigue. And so I'm definitely looking forward to seeing friends. I'm going to see my roommate, who I haven't seen in six months. I'm going to get away from the house, which Godlove, my parents. And they've been amazing to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1841.47,1932.22"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I am ready to see some people to whom I'm not directly related and, you know, touch back with those relationships because. A lot of my friends have, you know, been able to keep in touch during this pandemic and have found new ways of connecting, and I have not been as accessible to them as I would have liked to be. And just to be completely frank, I think it's frayed some relationships because it has felt to people like I care more about my work than I care about my relationships with them. And that's really tough in a friendship. And so I'm excited to have the time to show the people I care about, that I care about them. And I think that we are lucky enough to be in a place now where I can do that and I'll take work off. But take work, chill. And and devote a little bit more time to it, to some other things that I'm also passionate about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1932.34,1985.27"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And also maybe watching the Virgin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1987.38,1988.85"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So literally, if you haven't seen this, this is they're not paying me. This is a free plug for Jane the Virgin fantastic show.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1990.62,1996.03"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's great. And I know you I've seen you in plays before, and I know there's much more to you than just, you know, invisible hands or just the things that we've talked about. You have a lot of different kinds of interests and things that you're involved in. So I definitely want to just put that in there into the podcast that that there's there's a whole host of things that you do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=1997.02,2021.97"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you. Well, I had I had a good director. And while I'm sad that I was planning on doing a show in in the spring until school was canceled and with with my his girlfriend directing. So we were very excited for that. But actually, I'm going to see Noel when I go to Colorado this weekend and we're thinking about doing a little reading for our friends. So if you want to tune into that, you're more than welcome back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2022.72,2045.67"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Is this Noel Mercer? It is, yeah. Oh yeah. She was in my section. I thought that that gateway that everyone has to take totally history of whatever world drama or whatever it is like theater studies one time, one time and one 11 precisely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2046.12,2061.15"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was going to be a theater studies major and I came to Yale and I took that theater studies 110. It was the second day of classes and I fully fell asleep and I was like, OK, maybe the study is not for me after all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2062.11,2071.44"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, it moves on from the Greeks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2072.909,2075.28"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And actually I know from the Cyprus death play, I think it really is a rough time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2075.82,2084.85"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Why don't we step down? Yeah, so we're almost at two forty five, so I don't know if you guys have any other last questions, William, if you have any questions for us, do you like a job interview?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2091.44,2103.23"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, what do you you know, I mean, we have to. Ask, what is it about this place that you miss the most, or do you ever think about this? But this place being Yale, of course, the campus?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2103.59,2114.59"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, I do. I miss the. I miss the feeling of vibrancy and of life, and that goes for Yale as well as New York City, you know, and things are starting to return to normal a little bit. We'll see how the second wave goes. But I miss the feeling of things are happening all the time here. And instead, I think a lot of people just feel like this is endless.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2116.36,2143.22"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I remember, you know, we were being told, OK, we're going to shut down for two weeks and before like two weeks. What? That's insane.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2144.06,2150.45"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then now it's like, oh, two weeks like. Yeah, that's how long you have to wait before you get your covid desk back. And that's how long you have to quarantine for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2151.95,2158.31"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. So now like two weeks in the span of time just doesn't exist anymore. And I think especially for me, you know, the first few days of invisible hands, it was like learning how to build a national nonprofit in a week was kind of like a crash course I was taking. And so it felt like things were constantly happening. And now that we're in a bit of a more sustainable position, still growing and learning how to better serve those that that we're trying to reach, you know, it it can feel like a little bit of drudgery sometimes. And I think that is also a feeling that a lot of the community has. And so it kind of seeps into to everyone as well, which I think can be tough. But I also think, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2158.7,2197.1"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As I said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2198.2,2198.53"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Young people in particular, but but people of all, you know, young and young at heart are finding new and creative ways to come together and show each other that even though we are all sitting in our own dorms or apartments or pods or whatever, we're not alone. Right. Even though we're by ourselves, we're not alone. And there are thousands of people out there. I have the stats to prove it. Who want to be your friend, who want to be your ally, who want to be your partner, who want to stand with you right now and be a resource for you and that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2199.79,2232.92"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gives me hope that even in the darkest of times, even when it feels like the news is always about how scary the world is and rightfully so, it is scary that if you look a little bit closer, you will be able to see our shared humanity and our ability to pull together and pull through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2234.69,2250.17"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My name is Corey, he said I am a rising senior, I guess technically still since I've taken a semester off. I'm a film and media studies major. I am originally from Whidbey Island, Washington State, which is like this little teeny island north of Seattle. It's very rural. It's kind of hippie ville. It's very different from here. I also am very involved with music on campus. I have taken a turn around the musical theater scene from the side of the pit and from the side of direction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2258.94,2294.46"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I also conduct the Davenport Pops Orchestra. So that's me, that's what gives me life on campus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2295.63,2303.46"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Can I touch on the film studies part? So when I was a naive pre Frosch, I had an intensely intellectual and a friend I deeply admire who's a rising sophomore. We met every week in the summer for a weekly T and he would recommend me or give me readings, which would be movies. These are great films. But sometimes one of them, if I can remember well, was an eight hour long film about eye of a whale. It was hard to get through, but I really enjoyed the conversations. Do you, as a film, study and media major, have any film or reading that you again really see the intellectual value, enjoyed the class discussions, both kind of a burden, something to get through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2304.81,2350.14"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I think that's probably true for a lot of film and media studies readings in general, I think the readings can be a lot like that. I've often found that when I struggle with films or readings or something, they seem very dense. They don't seem like they have that much value to someone that's wanting to go into production.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2352.77,2375.51"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I will find that after the fact, much after the fact. I will be looking back on these things that I have studied with greater horse knowledge and greater background knowledge, and I will find a lot more value in them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2377.04,2392.55"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think that in general, a lot of the heavy theory readings and just pieces of theory in general, a lot of the foundational films like there was this one that we always watch in intro film studies and film one 50 men with a movie camera. It's 90 minutes of kind of a kaleidoscopic collage of film. And as someone that hadn't had that much exposure to film theory, that was really tough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2393.12,2424.17"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's hard to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2425.79,2426.42"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Conceptualize what that could possibly mean for film in general until much later, and you have much more context.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2428.6,2436.1"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Just kind of picking off, backing off of the film conversation, I know the, you know, filming just in general, it's it's so much harder to produce videos and those sorts of things right now with covid and, you know, requirements with social distancing. And I also know that there's, you know, the film equipment itself is quite expensive and not always accessible, that you have to rent equipment for meals for those things. Was that something that was like a factor of you thinking, you know, maybe I should probably take a semester off? It's it's going to be a bit difficult to do a senior, you know, a senior film project right now because of these limitations. 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I want to make a production thesis, so I want to make a short film for my thesis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2495.24,2507.75"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And generally, the process that that requires is the first semester of your senior year you spend writing and then you go into your second semester and then you make the film. And on a general film set, you have your whole cast and crew. And so I was making one last spring that unfortunately got very interrupted because of covid. But the film I was making last spring, at times we would have ten people in a small room trying to get these shots. You know, you've got the light team, you've got the camera team, you've got your actors, you have some other people being production assistants on set. And so just with covid and covered restrictions, it's not really possible or safe to do those things anymore. And like you were mentioning, make a film equipment is very expensive that cameras that we're working with as film students, not even on professional levels, but the the cameras we're working with this film students are tens of thousands of dollars. And you really need those to get any sort of good quality film or for myself, as I'm trying to build a portfolio, because that's what will get me hired in the future in these areas that I want to go into. 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They're only making it available to small, like single person things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2630.06,2638.67"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And as someone that really wants to do narrative, especially fiction, narrative film, that's just not so possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2639.24,2646.56"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I I'm trying to find other ways to do that over the summer. So I went home over the summer and my sister is an actress.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2647.97,2654.81"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so while we were on our island home, I was like, what? What can I do this summer? How can I take advantage of this? You know, in New Haven, it's hard to get to rural sets or scenes that's very traditionally kind of a big barrier. And student filmmaking on college campuses. It's like everything you make looks like it was shot on a campus. So when I was like when I was home, I was thinking, what can I do? How can I do this differently? And so we I bought some cheap equipment, you know, very guerrilla style filmmaking, nothing that's going to hold up in the face of, you know, the cinema of history or anything. 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And my dad's he has a crutch because he has a prosthetic legs. We like strap like a crutch to a ladder and attached a sound recorder to that, you know, stuff like that. But ultimately, I don't want to do my thesis that way. Ultimately, I really need to use ray equipment for that. So that's a bit long winded. 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But how have you tried to just keep in touch with others in this time of just complete distance?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2740.72,2767.69"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it's definitely a challenge, as I'm sure it is for everyone. I definitely can be a bit of an out of sight, out of mind kind of person. And though I'm always thinking about my friends and wanting to spend time with them, I'm not always super great on the follow through, as I'm sure is a common story for many people. So I've tried to stay involved with extracurriculars that I have been involved with on campus. I'm still conducting the Davenport Pops Orchestra as we go virtual. I'm still involved with some other organizations like the Progressive Party.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2771.44,2806.27"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm just trying to make connections that way. I actually have I'm fortunate in that I have three really close friends of mine that are also suite mates that have chosen to take this semester off and a few of them are in the area. And so we have been able to bond over this shared experience, the the gratitude that we made this choice and the little things scratching at the back of our heads with the Fumo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2808.52,2834.02"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have spent a lot of time on Zoome when I was still at home, I spent so much time with my family again, I'm sure a very common story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2835.88,2845.54"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My family's very loud and in everyone's business there's not a lot of privacy, not a lot of alone time. Many, many hours of the day were spent in close proximity to my other family members doing fun things or not so fun things that I was wondering if you could tell us a little bit more about your nonprofit work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2845.99,2867.92"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Just seeing that, you know, this is a really important time for nonprofits just in the sort of election year sort of scheme. And in terms of, you know, conversations about Black Lives Matter, about underrepresented groups, groups that are affected by covid. This just seems like such a great time for young people to get involved with these sorts of organizations. So I wonder if you could just tell us a little bit more about your experiences and what you're working on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2868.49,2893.9"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I also at this moment, I kind of felt like I just I had to do something. I had to put my time and energy where my mouth was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2894.5,2904.19"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so here I am working at this nonprofit. So the nonprofit is called More Like America. And the idea is that we are trying to elect representatives that are more like America.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2904.58,2916.55"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so specifically what that means is that we're committed to providing aid or campaign support to candidates who are women, candidates who are people of color and candidates who are LGBTQ plus. So all of our candidates fall into one or multiple of those categories and we are specifically focused on swing states. Our main priority is to flip red seats. And so we are mostly operating in Florida, Michigan, North Carolina and Arizona.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2917.69,2951.08"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then we have a federal candidate who is from Virginia and we also have a federal candidate from Texas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2952.01,2957.65"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that's it's definitely a very fulfilling use of time. I think it's. I wouldn't want to be doing anything else right now. I think at this moment in time, this is where I need to be and I think I hope that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2961.48,2979.38"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"People are committed this fall to these causes, I hope people follow up. I hope people go to the ballot box. I hope we have a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2980.76,2991.05"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tide, that is unlike what has ever been seen before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2992.43,2996.45"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I want to tie together your comments on time, you're mentioning how this year is a good time of reflection for you just really decide not only to get your craft in terms of video making skills, but also to make this crucial decision and to think more about the two paths you possibly have for the future.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=2998.52,3017.78"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, how do you see your work with this nonprofit as well as your creative capacities as in harmony?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3018.82,3026.51"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, so there are a lot of great opportunities to use my creative skills in this nonprofit, which I'm very much grateful for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3029.5,3038.95"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's a pretty small nonprofit, hopefully blossoming. So I think that's one big advantage of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3039.16,3045.16"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm a firm believer that change comes in the form of two different ways, and one of those is through electoral politics and one of them is through much more grassroots change. And I think culture and media is a huge part of that grassroots change. And, you know, it's hard to measure. What things have the precise amount of impact and everything, but I think it might be possible that our media and film making or TV shows, songs, art that has perpetuated throughout our culture perhaps has more influence on change, or at least it's very crucial in terms of getting our cultural consciousness to a place where that change can be seen in electoral politics.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3047.4,3097.06"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think. This semester, I am I am learning so much about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3098.05,3104.54"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What change looks like in these final stages of how it gets to the representatives, how it gets to our candidates, how it gets to people that are on the floor of places where changes are made. And I think that's a really valuable lesson for me in terms of where we need to apply pressure, where we need to learn and grow as a society in order for that to manifest in these types of changes. And so moving forward in my life, in my career, I really hope that I can work on artistic projects that contribute towards that kind of positive change that I can use this knowledge of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3106.4,3147.62"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Where where we need to push for change of what kinds of challenges we run into in terms of not progressing in in our electoral politics, in terms of how we get hung up because our candidates aren't truly representative of our country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3149.48,3168.77"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think that, yeah, I want to continue to work on the cultural end of things to help make that change.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3169.73,3176.48"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I have a question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3178.5,3179.55"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We're not quite at the five forty five mark, and this may seem like a conclusive question, but please, everybody, you know, continue with as you see fit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3180.03,3188.85"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, you know, one of the interesting things about taking a gap year in the middle of one sort of your career is that you can kind of it's almost like you can have a glimpse of what apostille or post college sort of life is might be like without graduating yet without yet having graduated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3189.54,3209.67"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so I'm curious, just in your own experience, what are some of the aspects of life on campus or life as a student at Yale or more generally that you see now that you'd like to continue or somehow that you either have you think have affected you in a way that you'll think you'll try to incorporate them moving forward, that you could sort of appreciate about campus life or life at college. And then what are some things maybe that will happily say goodbye to about, you know, being on a on a college campus once you're not tethered to it anymore?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3210.27,3243.75"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, definitely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3245.82,3246.21"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think one thing is that I really love to pursue projects. I'm definitely one thing at a time kind of person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3247.11,3256.62"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And as I as I have sort of said, I the one thing at a time that I pursue, I want to contain many elements and cover many different interests and things. But ultimately, I really like working in the service of one goal and really working hard for something specifically. And it is really nice to be able to take this time and say that I am asserting my whole self and all of my energy towards furthering one goal and one one pursuit of the common good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3257.58,3291.06"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think that is something that I appreciate about not being in classes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3291.69,3296.37"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I know that I find that while I really enjoy my classes, one of them will especially seize my consciousness and interests and I will feel like that's the only thing I should be committing myself towards or I'll be making it extracurricular film or something. And I feel like everything else is a distraction from doing that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3297.39,3316.29"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think that's one thing that's nice about working and, you know, spending eight hours of your day doing this one thing. I'm sure this has more to do with being in the middle of a pandemic than. Just working life in general, but I do miss being able to get up and go and. I have a meeting in Sterling and then, you know, take my lunch and read some articles and then go to another meeting or go to a class where I can do things that are very hands on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3316.95,3353.99"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think it is nice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3355.96,3357.55"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"To be able to think about how I want to use my day and feel like I really own my day and yeah, and that's definitely not common to all working situations, but I feel like I can decide with my day what is the best thing for what is the best way for me to accomplish all of the things that I need to do. What is the goal I need to serve? At the end of the day, I think I miss being amidst campus culture. I miss being miss the hustle and bustle. I miss being amidst all my friends. I miss running into tons and tons of people that you see and know all the time. I miss that very. I do miss the insularity, actually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3361.2,3405.57"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I miss the knowing that you have at the base level some very specific things in common with something else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3406.02,3412.92"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And reaching out for that connection will not be that difficult. It's a simple way to start. It is. I think one thing that campuses really get right is the sense of community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3413.22,3424.92"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think it is scary to me and disappointing that we aren't able to maintain that throughout life in the same ways that we aren't able to maintain this one community of people that all live together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3426.0,3439.12"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you can just run across the block and, you know, borrow your sugar or talk about some idea that you want to realize together. I think that is something really special about being on a campus. And it's something that I think we could, as a society figure out how to hang onto that. But we're not there yet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3439.59,3460.5"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, it's interesting, I've been watching this old show from the early 90s, Northern Exposure, and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3463.49,3468.89"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"From nine, I think ninety ninety one, ninety two, and there's an episode, you know, when someone decides to buy a washing machine washer and dryer and everyone goes to the laundromat and she eventually gets lonely and sort of the philosophizing guy says, you know, it won't be long before, you know, first we were in sort of public houses, our houses. We shared the bathrooms. Everyone kind of did everything together. But then convenience led to sort of appliances. And then we sort of had our own homesteads. And he says, you know, it won't be long before we have to sit in the living room, turn on the hook up to the fiberoptics and bliss out. We don't have to cook. 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Right. But then what what what do we lose with gaining and what do we gain by by losing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3532.97,3540.59"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I guess, as you point out, is a very, very stark reminder we have now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3541.16,3547.13"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely. I'm I'm grateful that we have figured out these or that we have ironed out the details in these modes of living, these ways that we can make life more convenient. And I know that for some people like people with disabilities, that accommodations like Zoom can be hugely life changing. And I'm also afraid that everything we do is going to move to virtual buildings because I really appreciate the value of being in person with people and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3548.21,3580.28"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, the mind meld, just the sense of presence that you can have when you're in the room with people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3581.44,3587.26"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, building off at an example. This is from literature. It's a book called Memory Police. And Adam knows it's a Japanese novel. People are just the memory. Please take people's memories selectively as time passes over months and months. And I feel that somewhat similar here of I've gotten a very particular eye for some things that I see on a daily monotonous basis of, you know, walk through the neighborhood. I know exactly where that flower is. It may change an inch, but I'll notice it. But other things on Zoom, it's just this fatigue that sets in and then just leads to a gradual forgetting. You mentioned stuff about Yale specifically, but also back to your hometown or anything that you worry either about covid specifically in these months or just going forward in this very liminal space we live in. Things you may miss or forget they worried about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3588.49,3648.13"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, of being from a small town.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3651.85,3656.95"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That is definitely not in the same world that Yale is all at all is a very interesting experience and I think in this time there are a few things that have been thrown into sharp relief for me. And some of those things are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3658.66,3673.66"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Things I really miss about my hometown, things I think my hometown got very right. And also there's this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3675.58,3683.86"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, kind of increasing irrational sense of dread, like, I will never get out of my hometown, I'm going to be stuck here forever, the whole Yale thing was all a dream.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3685.38,3696.06"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm waking up now coming back to real life, which, you know, I know in my rational brain that's that's not true. That's not going to happen. But a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3696.75,3708.3"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Despite that sort of existential dread, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3710.04,3713.76"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Those beautiful things about my hometown really have come to the forefront, and I think that has been. In this moment of reflection, that has been very valuable in terms of thinking about the things that I want and need in life. My hometown has a very unusual sense of community, I think, as I mentioned before, where my hometown is kind of lots of very hippie types. We have, you know, lots of summer street fairs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3715.28,3750.2"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have people will have these like Renaissance festivals, Christmas fairs. Well, where people will make their own candlesticks. And lots of people live in these sort of commune things where they have you know, they have their house, but the washer and the dryer, the dining area are in a separate building. And among all the houses are the cow fields.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3750.8,3776.51"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And they need all felt their little Christmas ornaments and sometimes sweaters and things. And I think there's something really delightful about that. It's slower, it's much slower, and it's much more at peace, I think. And I think especially in the time of covid this weird time where time seems to slip through so quickly and yet stand completely still, I think reflecting on the spaces that are fast moving, like Yale or New York or much of the Northeast in general, and spaces that are not so quickly moving is just a really interesting thing to go about doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3777.35,3819.11"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in my opinion, the world should move more slowly. I think we all would be much happier, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3820.82,3826.4"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It just be a different world, a better world, perhaps.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3828.36,3830.46"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OK, Isabella, let's start by having you describe yourself in a few sentences.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3841.56,3845.88"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My name is Isabella Smeets and I was born and raised in New York City. I'm currently on my gap year and I'm a part of the class of twenty twenty five. I'm hoping to double major at Yale and classics and history.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3847.35,3861.96"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Great. Thanks for that brief intro. Isabella, we know that since leaving for home, you've kept yourself quite busy with internships and classes. Could you speak a bit more about your work with sweet readers as well as the overview? Also, how have you kept up with this, even though you're not taking the seminars right now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3862.86,3886.68"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, definitely. This fall I'm doing a few different activities. I'm volunteering for Sweet Readers, which is a non for profit organization that pairs middle school students with adults living with Alzheimer's. I've been involved since seventh grade. So in middle school I volunteered with the program and once I got to high school, I joined the leadership council. And in my last two years of high school, I was the co president for the Leadership Council. I organized different fundraising events and I helped bring a sweet readers community to two locations in Canada. Another activity I'm also doing is taking online courses for ancient Greek. I got exposed a little bit to ancient Greek in my last year of high school, but it was quite a minimal exposure and I really want to familiarize myself with it to prepare to take classics at Yale. I'm also volunteering with the Yale Review on a part time basis, and I've really enjoyed that it's just started, but it's an activity I definitely want to continue throughout my time at Yale. And I also was able to still be a part of the Yale Historical Review. And I feel so lucky to have the chance to be involved with the publication even during my Gap year. That's mostly for the fall and this semester for my next. I'm not completely sure yet. I'll definitely keep working with sweet readers, the Yale Review and the Historical Review, but I'm also looking at some programs abroad. Maybe I'll take another ancient Greek course or do something with French and I'll probably spend some time with my family abroad as a lot of them live in Europe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=3887.97,3999.95"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thanks. And I'm actually curious about the Yale Review, but also about sweet readers. Just could you talk a little bit more about how you became involved with it and what that work is like? Both, you know, managing, helping run it, but also sort of the work itself reading with the people?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4000.76,4019.34"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, it's a really special program. I honestly fell in love with it in middle school, and that's what propelled me to join the council. Basically, you would meet once a week with an adult living with Alzheimer's and you do different humanities based activities with them. Some of them run in schools, but a lot of them run in museums in normal times. I did my program at the Jewish Museum, which was across the street from my school, and we would look at artwork one week and the other week we would do some sort of art activity. And actually this year during my internship, I'm having the opportunity to design my own curriculum for sweet readers. They're doing this sixties theme. So I'm thinking of doing something with poetry, maybe an Allen Ginsberg theme. So I really enjoyed it in middle school. But you could only be in the programs and middle school. So once I got to high school and beyond, I would help make those programs happen. In other places like in Canada, I would find a school, an elder care center, and kind of set up the St. Rita's community and pilot the sessions so the school would carry it out themselves. And I really enjoyed that because I enjoyed the program so much of middle school. It was great to be able to give that experience to other middle schoolers and kind of expand the program in different schools.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4020.62,4100.93"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's actually sort of similar to something that came up in both of the other interviews.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4101.93,4106.51"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I guess the sense of the weight, the sense of time changes and what you do with your time changes because of how a little bit more free you are without coursework. So how would you say specifically, let's say, even though I know you're taking the Greek and Latin courses as your. I guess is you're reading sort of are you do you feel it's becoming more proprietary? Do you feel like you're just able to sort of pursue other things that sites are reading and spend your time on things that maybe you won't have as much time to want to hear or or not otherwise?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4107.02,4139.76"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, definitely. I do have to say, I never thought about taking a gap year before covid, but I definitely welcome it at the moment. I never thought that I was in need at this time to learn and at the same time focus on some more personal and nonacademic goals. I've started running again playing tennis in Central Park. I'm even helping my sixth grade sister with her Latin and French and also spending some time with my grandmother and my baby cousins, like our mother is Persian, actually, and she's in trying to teach me some Farsi, which I do welcome, actually. Sektor help last year in my senior year because I didn't independent project on the poet Hafez. But it's been really nice to have a chance to talk with her and learn some Farsi in a relaxed setting just for pleasure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4140.74,4185.62"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I want to touch on that last word. Pleasure. How have you relaxed during this time? I know you mentioned you've been reading more spend time with family. Anything else you've been taking advantage of with this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4190.13,4201.77"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As Adam said, this time you have away from campus and regular classes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4202.31,4207.77"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, during quarantine, I bike daily while listening to music and I'm still doing that. And I find it a great way to relieve stress and relax. I actually even started watching Gilmore Girls after I got accepted to Yale. I love that show when I was younger in ninth grade and I felt it funny watching it, knowing I get some time in New Haven as well. My mother always wanted me to read a favorite book of hers, a Russian novel, Quiet Flows The Don by Mikhail Sokolov. I never had the time. It is for a novel, four volumes and quite large, but I'm really looking forward to have a time to read it this year, as would be great to have time to talk with her about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4209.6,4251.45"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, you mentioned the issues we may face during winter when it gets a bit colder. You also noted how you may go abroad. Can you elaborate a bit more on your possible plans to look beyond New York and travel even farther, continue with Adam's idea of space and time together?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4255.6,4275.1"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, yeah. I just I have to wait and see if Europe is safe, but I took French all throughout high school for eight years and I really enjoyed that. And I think I want to study it at Yale as well. So I was thinking of going to France for a bit and getting that experience to become truly fluent. So I'm trying to look into programs like that. But it is very difficult to plan things these days as you never know if it's going to be safe, if you'll be able to go and have a good experience there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4277.24,4306.48"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I'll mention offhand and one of the things you know, I live in Seabrook, so I live sort of among the first users who are here and living in the college rather than on old campus is that, you know, for the first time in a long time, I think, since the Second World War, you know, the students the first years are in the colleges and they're sort of a very serious sort of strictures on their life. Right. And so in a way, this presents an opportunity for each of the four years as sort of Yale unfolds and blooms again after sort of partially closing off from the first year on to be sort of better and better or more fuller and fuller experience for this class of first year. And so this is an elaborate way to ask, I guess, what are you looking most forward to?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4307.5,4358.14"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems like you're enjoying and making very much, making the most of your time, your gap year. But what do you specifically may maybe not necessarily missing or lacking, but looking forward to most about being able to be on campus and and in this sort of million of college?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4359.18,4375.81"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I was always really excited to start my time at Yale and start University in general. And I feel like the whole world right now has really reflected on the things that are most important. And I think if there are in-person elements such I'm hoping for, I'm going to appreciate them along with everyone else all the more. So, yeah, I'm really excited to start my time at Yale next fall. And while I'm not sure that everything will be back to normal, I feel prepared to start my time there next year after this year way, no matter the circumstances. And I'm particularly looking forward to the director studies program and I'm really hoping to have some of the events or seminars in person for that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4377.16,4418.05"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a big open question also, I guess, to Adam to. What do you look forward to most in reading, De'ath, because all three of us are Adam and I both took it and you're you're going to do it. Am I going to give my perspective to. But I'll I'll defer to Adam first, I guess, because you have been more time to reflect, you know, years for the early work in your mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4419.05,4443.29"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, well, yes. So what I enjoy, unfortunately, what I enjoy, I'll interpret the question broadly, what I enjoyed about the reading and then how it how it sort of strands of it its half life and my conversation and thoughts and work practice from day to day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4444.65,4463.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have to say to this day, even including grad school and research trips to Tibet, it has been the fastest the most amount of information, sort of ideas and ways of thinking and ways of expressing myself in a concentrated amount of time is probably since I was, you know, fresh out of the womb.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4465.67,4490.9"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, you know, you're learning to actually talk it time and space, learning how to make sense of the world and how to breathe and coordinate. 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And then you have to explain why it is relevant. And then by that point, you've either turned it, shut down the conversation or you've opened it up in a significant way. So it remains this sort of risky proposition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4595.03,4615.91"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, you know, it's the same. It's what they say about education and it gives you humanistic education in general, which is that it populates your mind even in solitary moments with these sort of like conversations you can have when you encounter something new. So that's the the probably the most lasting and beneficial aspect that I enjoy the most and enjoyed most at the time is being in conversation and having this sort of cloud of of different approaches to the world and different types of thinking that you can bring with you all over the place. Sorry, that was a bit long winded, but I think that's that's pretty much that pretty much encapsulates my thoughts about the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4616.87,4655.6"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I mean, that's what you can look forward to now. Isabella, I think, yeah, you're much, much worse this year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4658.83,4666.6"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Still to come, and, you know, I'm not necessarily the least clunky introducer of, you know, Emma Bovary intercoms.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4667.68,4678.99"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, it's a 50 50 chance the conversation goes well or not while you're framing it. Yeah. Yeah. Better than twenty five. Seventy five. E Yeah. For me, I do wish that I had a background in classics and that's why I think you'll be prepared. Well Isabella. Have you encountered in your classes you're taking now anything you think either coming out a second time or for a first and that you find particularly resonant or moving this they can have like no relation to death at all?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4680.34,4714.21"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, actually, when you were asking what I most looking forward to in D, of course my answer may change after I've actually done the whole year long program. But I think what I was attracted to by it was in a way the fast paced nature, because I had read a couple of the texts before, but only parts in my Latin class. I took Latin for about seven years and I loved it. But when we would read sections of the Aeneid or sections of The Metamorphosis, because the language is so difficult, you would spend a long time on shorter passages. You just weren't able to just pick up the book and read it cover to cover. So in a way, I guess some people could say, why would you take Das if you know classics, why would you read these great works in translation when you could technically read them in Latin or ancient Greek? But for me, I think it's an incredible opportunity to be able to read all of these texts at a fast pace, all in dialog with each other and to have that foundation going into classics, because I don't think any classics major could ever pick up the Aeneid and read it cover to cover the way you could read a translation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4715.56,4782.94"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I think it'll be a different reading process and I'm really looking forward to that and being able to experience those texts in conversation with other texts and without the joy of the Latin language. So I guess just getting down to the ideas of the text in conversation with the others.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4784.02,4800.67"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mm hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4802.09,4802.3"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And is there anything in particular, is there any particular work you've read that or authored that speaks to this sort of moment of I wouldn't call it isolation exactly, but let's say let's just call it a pandemic and sort of great change in life? I mention it because when I was in Tibet last year, we were all traveling on this bus. It's a very literary and I was actually reading the Decameron about these Florentines, these citizens of Florence during the plague of that time. They all went north and sort of told stories to escape. And so that was my sort of literary touchstone a few months ahead of time, because I read it a couple of months before the first cases were discovered in and identified in Wuhan. But I'm just curious if there's anything you've read that sort of you'd recommend hey, you should read this at this time or just anything you've come across in your courses.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4804.21,4859.77"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That is interesting that you think listeners might benefit from kind of reading either in translation or or not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4860.25,4867.09"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think it's clichéd because it's one of the most famous Latin texts, but I really enjoyed the Aeneid and my teacher. I studied it in junior year and Latin. He loves picking out quotes that could be applicable to our lives. I feel like the Aeneid can really be helpful to anyone going through any sort of rough time, especially now with a global pandemic. That's a pretty difficult time for all of us to live through. I think there's a quote he always picked out. Perhaps one day it will even be pleasing to remember these things. I think it's sad as a NASA is about to die on a ship with all his men and there just have been suffering for years and years with no promise of ever. Going back home is like a knee in the Odyssey. Odysseus is suffering, but he always knows he's trying to get back home, trying to see his wife, but insists he has nothing to look forward to in a way besides more suffering and more war because he's told he has to fight a war. So it's a pretty bleak book. What do you think about it? So I think, honestly, the scenes of that can be really applicable to whenever you feel like you're going through a dark time, like a pandemic, thinking, not even remembering times of the pandemic will one day be pleasing for you. And one day you can look back at the good things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4869.25,4947.34"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's great, I it brings to mind my very good friend of mine, who is indeed. I think I think I recall her saying that I asked her what the motto of PTD was once, and she said something like, maybe one day this will be you'll look back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4949.04,4967.15"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And clearly it's this quote from the Aeneid. So she always does.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4967.54,4971.95"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's kind of like the these sort of the curse or the the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4972.49,4977.6"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, it just kind of basically became the curse of a crisis. Right. Like if you enter if you proceed with this campaign and empire will fall. But it's interesting because it reads on two levels. And I like your your sort of optimistic reading of it rather than my friends, since that like what it means is that you're on a downward slope and how deep it is, the future is going to be much worse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=4978.16,5002.94"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You'll look back at this is much better. But no, I think you have to much, obviously much more.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=5003.38,5009.57"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think on the nose reading, which is which is a hardening sort of take on not not even just that just this moment, but as you say, sort of life as a whole, human history as a whole.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=5010.41,5022.29"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I think bright years is actually just really a symbol of it's bright now and it didn't as the as the misattributed quotes of Mao, it's always darkest. The night is always darkest before it goes completely black.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=5024.14,5040.76"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't want to shift away too much from your, I think, very poignant reflections on Aeneas and making freeing sense and meaning to TDRS Monroe, if it is actually that. But I also have to mention that I watched Gilmore Girls too when I was a senior in high school. When I knew I got into you, I didn't finish it. I'll be honest. I got here a few seasons and I stopped a bit much. But any other shows that you're watching now to relax and perhaps escape from the times when you're not reading The Aeneid?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=5045.53,5081.23"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I have a 12 year old sister, as I mentioned, so we like trying to find more tween friendly shows that she could watch with us as well. And our whole family watch the good place with her, which is actually a really interesting show. One of the main characters is a philosopher studies philosophy. So there's actually some parts of it that I've really enjoyed. And it's definitely a funny show that really takes you away from the time. I think the fourth season is about Netflix now, so I'll definitely be watching that with her in a good place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=5083.23,5117.88"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So is that the one that's not the one sort of sit in this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=5118.74,5123.04"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, no, I'm going to reveal how clueless I am, but pop culture, where there's like a village in the woods and no one knows what's going on outside. No, OK, never mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=5125.02,5135.04"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, it's basically about human beings dying and being sent to heaven or what they think is heaven or they find out is actually not the good place, the bad place. And it goes on from that. It gets quite complicated, but it's OK. It's definitely fun to watch. I recommend it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=5135.49,5152.05"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'll put it on the queue. Yeah, it's like a nice little death refresher, you know. You've got you've got to be need.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=5153.26,5160.52"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You've got to get home if you need a bit of a way to get back to it and you definitely got militancy and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=5160.75,5167.67"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. The mind is a place of its own. It can make a heaven or hell or hell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=5167.79,5171.51"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. Is there anything else you're excited for, Isabella? I mean, you're planning to do now? I know you're going to be taking the. Yes, you're going to be coming back to New Haven in August. What else are you optimistic about? It seems like plenty of reasons to be. This is a general open question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=5173.25,5193.47"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I'm optimistic that even if things for some reason don't improve from today with the whole covid situation, I still feel like having had a year to go through it, that Yale will handle it even better next year. And I think that life will get better because Yale and the whole world will know how to handle this new normal. So I'm optimistic about that. I'm looking forward to starting next year. Definitely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=5195.54,5223.59"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And now for a little bit of global background, rather than narrate an ongoing story and bog down the podcast, we can summarize by the time the disease was identified, it had already spread and borders were closed and quarantine procedures put in place around the world. Recriminations were made and more notably than perhaps any time ever, humankind has embarked towards the common end of limiting the spread of the disease and discovering a curative treatment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=5234.51,5263.73"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But this effort has not been without competition and suspicion, and the expectation of future preeminence, glory or profit. Safety may be first, but why not safety with glory and the moral high ground, if at all possible. So as of September 28, there are thirty three point two million globally acknowledged and confirmed cases and nine hundred and ninety nine thousand attributed deaths due to covid in Connecticut. Those numbers are fifty six thousand five hundred eighty seven cases, four thousand five hundred one deaths in New Haven County. Those numbers are fourteen thousand three hundred forty cases and one thousand one hundred fifteen deaths. And the United States as a whole is has reported seven point one four million cases and two hundred five thousand deaths year since August. As registered in total 20 cases, positive cases, no correlating deaths, and of these 20 cases, 15 are students, this information can be tracked as long as the site is up at covid-19. Yielder, Edu. Sogyal Hyson statistics.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=5265.11,5363.02"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147/transcript/20873/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now for a snapshot of you, the most notable change to campus life has been online classes which have all been held through the video conferencing software Zoom. This is a continuation of the course set up from the spring term of twenty twenty back when campus was mostly closed. The following information is based on reporting by the YTN compared to the typical on campus housing rate of about 84 percent or about 5000 undergraduates this term. There about 1800 students on campus at Yale dorms at a rate of 36 percent. 1500 are off campus in New Haven, not counting sophomores, all of whom were not considered not in residence. And this is in overall 79 percent increase over the normal rate of off campus living. 15 percent of students declined to enroll for the term and seventeen hundred are remote away from New Haven. Of course, this is partly by design. The university issued guidelines over the summer for reopening the dorms are open to first years in the fall, sophomores in the spring and juniors and seniors both terms both on campus and off and to students with special permission. There's a partial reduction in room and board for the diminished semester. This campus will close again with the arrival of Thanksgiving break. The college calendar has adapted to the exceptional circumstances instead of the usual two week shopping period, undergraduates only had a week to finalize the courses without the usual October recess. Students will also have to maintain their Zoome stamina without respite until November. Despite these shifts to the semester, Yale College will return to usual letter grade policies with no provision for a universal pass fail system, as Yeliz living in New Haven adapt to this virtual learning environment. They also need to acclimate to public health regulations. All students registered in New Haven also participate in Yose covid-19 screening program, which involves twice weekly testing, physical and social distancing regulations and isolation protocols and contact tracing in case of a positive test. On the whole, the fall will resemble no other at Yale College. In addition to these changes, extracurricular activities have had to adapt to social distance guidelines. Theater and a cappella groups are shifting to virtual formats, and sport teams are focusing on training rather than games. All students registered and in New Haven must sign in Abide by the Community Compact, a document regulating social behavior and testing for the first time since World War Two old campus is not being used primarily to house students beginning their first year in the college. Instead, it is to host college juniors. We would like to thank Liam Elkind in Houston for speaking with us in this first episode, if you like what you've heard from Leon Elkind, please feel free to visit the site, Invisible Hands Deliver. Our next episode will be on the election year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1124/collection_resources/32389/file/101147#t=5365.91,5546.13"}]}]}]}