{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/mp4vh5cv1b/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["Boston Globe interview-notes dictated by reporter [?], December 16, 1970"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/013/original/yale-blue.png?1678220072","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Identifier"]},"value":{"en":["mssa.ms.1981 (EAD ID)","MS 1981  (Call Number)","ms_1981_s07_b0921A.mp3 (Digital Object ID)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["audiocassettes"]}},{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["December 16, 1970 (Creation)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["https://preservica.library.yale.edu/explorer/explorer.html#prop:4\u0026amp;d11595ba-e632-4b4c-8992-9830a4e51ce7 (Other Finding Aid Note)","A copy of this material is available in digital form from Manuscripts and Archives and online. (Altformavail)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English (Primary)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["The materials are open for research.\n\nResearchers must register and agree to the Yale University Library User Agreement for Special Collections before accessing audiovisual material in this collection."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publisher"]},"value":{"en":["Manuscripts and Archives, Yale University Library."]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://archives.yale.edu/repositories/12/archival_objects/2102538"]}},{"label":{"en":["Preferred Citation"]},"value":{"en":["Boston Globe interview-notes dictated by reporter [?], December 16, 1970. Henry A. Kissinger Papers, Part II (MS 1981). Manuscripts and Archives, Yale University Library. https://archives.yale.edu/repositories/12/resources/5211."]}}],"summary":{"en":["https://preservica.library.yale.edu/explorer/explorer.html#prop:4\u0026d11595ba-e632-4b4c-8992-9830a4e51ce7","A copy of this material is available in digital form from Manuscripts and Archives and \u003cref actuate=\"onRequest\" show=\"new\" href=\"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/r/mp4vh5cv1b\"\u003eonline\u003c/ref\u003e."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["The materials are open for research.\n\nResearchers must register and agree to the Yale University Library User Agreement for Special Collections before accessing audiovisual material in this collection."]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Manuscripts and Archives Yale University Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Manuscripts and Archives Yale University Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/013/original/yale-blue.png?1678220072","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/public/images/audio-default.png","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20200626-6634-1pzl0ip.mpga"]},"duration":1351.05306,"width":640,"height":40,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/public/images/audio-default.png","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-yalemssa.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/093/502/original/open-uri20200626-6634-1pzl0ip.mpga?1593158583","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":1351.05306,"width":640,"height":40},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["ms_1981_s07_b0921A_transcript.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=0.0,10.311"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSPEAKER 1: Take two-- interview with Boston Globe editors. What do you consider are the prospects first of all? The SALT talks have been characterized by the most careful preparation we have ever undertaken in negotiations.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=10.311,33.175"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tWe have tried to avoid confrontation, which was normally the case between the JCS and the ACDA where you would get a president deciding how to judge between those who said you could take risks for peace and those who said you are risking security, in which case the president would then split the difference so to come up with a answer, which was different.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=33.175,64.79"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tAnd again, you would have to split the difference. This meant that they spent about 2/3 of the time negotiating within our own government. We, therefore, in preparing for the SALT talks, delayed the start in order to analyze every system and then determine what would happen if there was a violation, how long would it take to discover it, what we could do about inspecting, et cetera.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=64.79,98.62"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tThe result was this sort of approach eliminated about 80% of the differences. This also meant that we had building blocks from which we could put in different accommodations and come up with different positions.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=98.62,118.73"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tWhat we did-- we had presented two separate positions, which were rejected. And we are now on the third. During the preparations, there were really few disputes of the old nature, a possible exception was on radar limitation. Part of our approach has served us well.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=118.73,143.07"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tThe Soviets, on the other hand, have taken the traditional approach which means that they start out with a position which they don't really consider their real position, but something from which they will bargain and from which they can retreat.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=143.07,169.03"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tThis would have been our approach a couple of years ago. Nevertheless, the negotiations have been meaningful and useful. Still currently with the Vienna  recess one would have expected an agreement this next year, since Helsinki harbour is less likely.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=169.03,204.69"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tWhat appears to be happening is that they are building the negotiations to a point where when it is politically desirable from their point of view and with all the differences and reach agreement.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=204.69,220.85"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tIt is, therefore, not likely that we will have much until after the party Congress. Within three months after that then we will see. In short, the differences seem to be solvable. It is now, basically, a political decision on both parts but mostly on their part.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=220.85,246.35"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tQuestion-- with regard to the financial commitments which we will be involved in after the war is won in Indochina, how do you view the extent or the magnitude of this commitment?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=246.35,268.178"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tAnswer-- it is impossible to wind down, both from a financial point of view and from a true level point of view at the same time. Our estimate is that the financial need will be orders of magnitude lower than it is presently, but we are still going to have to put more in than we would normally put in such countries under normal circumstances.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=268.178,309.43"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tIn short, yes, we will wind down and our financial commitment will be a fraction of what is presently being put in. The length of time which this may go on is hard to estimate, possibly three, five years. For it depends in part on what kind of end we have. If this isn't negotiated so, then our ties are limited and our commitment may have to be modified accordingly.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=309.43,339.56"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tQuestion-- according to the Nixon Doctrine, how do you see us keeping our commitments without psychologically disturbing our allies? Aren't we getting a backlash in Korea and Singapore with the tide, and even in Europe? Do you consider this a problem?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=339.56,366.41"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tQuestion-- Answer-- yes, this is definitely a concern of ours. The Doctrine is an attempt to navigate between the need to withdraw while maintaining our commitments but not giving the impression that we want to keep them isolated.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=366.41,399.78"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tWe do not, on the other hand, do so much that the other countries will not do something for themselves and on their own. We want to stop the debate on commitments. Our policy is that our commitments should follow our interests not our interests following our commitments.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=399.78,423.73"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tThis means, we have to determine our interests, and then follow them, and make our commitments accordingly. In Vietnam, the [INAUDIBLE] greatest danger is political disintegration. Militarily, the situation seems to be on the mend. And we can continue to manage a withdrawal but other factors may affect the rate.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=423.73,454.33"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tIn Thailand and Korea, the impact has been exaggerated. There is a backlash but one must understand that in Korea it is partially political since there is an election coming up and Park wants to say that he fought all the way to keep as many troops there as possible.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=454.33,475.2"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tAlso in Europe it is true and we do consider it seriously but it is imperative for us to have supplies which lasts for 90 days while the Europeans only have 10 days. In every Congress, they're going to ask us why they are there.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=475.2,499.68"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tWe, therefore, must develop a rationale and follow the rationale, that is what we must sell. We do not believe that the US politic of Germany is the result of the Nixon Doctrine.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=499.68,521.07"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tQuestion-- What are your views on the Middle East ceasefire violation of the Soviets and the Egyptians? What do you consider are the implications of it?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=521.07,533.07"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tAnswer-- really can't say. Soviets may not have even consciously decided to violate. It may have been that the missiles were in the pipeline and the Egyptians simply took them out and set them up.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=533.07,555.6"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tThe problem is no one at all ever thought they'd violate so blatantly. Dr. Kissinger explained that he thought there would probably be a blow up but not by way of violation. which was so blatant and accelerated.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=555.6,578.626"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tThe best explanation, in retrospect, seems to be-- in an examination of the Soviet leadership-- one could say that in conjunction with the Cuban base build up and the Berlin harassment, that this was either, one, part of a master plan, two, they were simply blundering along, or three, that it was an outgrowth of the factions within the collective leadership.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=578.626,619.18"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tMy own view, Dr. Kissinger said is that it is the third case. What happens is that the various factions of the leadership in the Politburo are each jockeying for positions, none wants to be said to be less vigilant than another faction.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=619.18,642.34"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tEach faction may become predominant at any one time but none is able to exert an overall guiding influence, no one is responsible for coherence, and no one can impose coherence.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=642.34,662.5"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tIt is, therefore, possible that it is simply the result of a series of individual moves. It should also be of interest that, as we understand it, there is no clearance process within the Soviet system.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=662.5,681.295"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tEach department operates independently until things come together at the Politburo level. There is no national security system where there is coordination. All cables come to the Politburo members and all have the right to read all the cables.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=681.295,709.128"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tThere's no lateral communication prior to this time. In light of this kind of setup, plus the fact that it appears that the Soviet leadership is indeed quite mediocre, Kissinger said that this is the reason why he believed that the Middle East violations are simply the work of one part of the Soviet hierarchy, Berlin was probably the work of another, and Cuba was of a third.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=709.128,746.62"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tQuestion-- are we again creating the credibility question? For instance, with regard to the bombing or with regard to ceasefire violations, it seems that the immediate White House reaction is to deny or to give one story and then, at it's convenience, to later put out more detail, the more accurate report.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=746.62,779.45"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tAnswer-- one must first, in answer to this, distinguish between those actions which-- those that are of a security nature and those which are not. Secondly, it may look like that this all comes from the White House, but a lot comes from the departments, an also a lot comes in the form of leak.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=779.45,810.03"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tKissinger noted that this is one reason why he reads the paper now, simply to see who leaks what to whom. But returning to the original question on the ceasefire-- there is a temptation on the part of the intelligence community to follow the political biases of their superior rather than to tell the truth and what they think the situation is.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=810.03,847.6"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSecondly, they will often-- for instance with the missiles, say, well, there's only five or six and that's not that important. And then there's only 10 or 20 and that's not that important, which result that they become locked into a position emotionally.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=847.6,868.27"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tAnd unless the evidence becomes overwhelming, they will not get off their position. The real problem seems to be how does one set up an intelligence community which is, to some extent, isolated from political decision and which will give you the information that you need, regardless of whether it's the kind you want or the answer you want or not.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=868.27,904.7"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tThey just won't say you're wrong to the boss unless they are 100% sure. For example, with the bombing mission, it was a matter of politics to put out the facts. It was then the question of bureaucratic maneuvering and the dog fights which went on.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=904.7,933.33"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSecondly is that for better or for worse, there are some administration officials that feel that the press will put the worse slant on any set of facts regardless of how straightforward we are being.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=933.33,957.03"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tTherefore, there is the tendency to put the facts forward in the best light, the case that's being made. One also must think about the ethos of the American press, which is simply to get something new rather than to attempt to make a superior analysis.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=957.03,977.2"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tA good example on this is the statement we made on Laos last summer or the spring. We've decided that it was in the best interest of the country to set forth what the situation was in Laos. And by the way, these are operations which were simply being continued that have been put in motion by the previous administration.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=977.2,1006.452"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tIn addition, Symington knew everything that he put out publicly for about five years. And he simply used the hearings to take public what he already knew. In light of this, we decided to put out the statement on the facts as we knew them.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=1006.452,1026.206"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tA simple question, which we asked, was how many advisors had been killed in Laos. The answer we got was that none had been killed. They didn't tell us that somebody else had been killed. It would have been just as impressive if we had said less than 25 or less than 50, but we didn't ask the right questions.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=1026.206,1050.04"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tAnd we had to correct it when we found that one guy had been killed who was carried as an attaché in the Pentagon. Same sort of thing happened with regard to the bombing in Son Tay, release of ordnance, reluctant to say that ordnance had been used for fear of starting off a reaction which was out of proportion to what had been done.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=1050.04,1086.39"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tIn general, therefore, one is faced with one bureaucratic problem with getting the facts-- two, a tendency to put only the best facts forward-- and three, the trauma of what you say if it looks like the government is lying. In my opinion, there have been no deliberate attempts to lie about any major event in the government.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=1086.39,1128.53"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tQuestion-- what are your views on our relations with China seeing as that there are forces in the US against the two China policy? What is the government's policy?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=1128.53,1143.03"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tAnswer-- It is difficult at times to distinguish between the tactics and the strategy. It must be considered that there is an advantage to avoiding letting your opponents know what you're going to do so that they can coalesce on a tactical issue before you get to the strategic one.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=1143.03,1169.45"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tBoth Chinas agree there shouldn't be two Chinas in the UN. Our approach has been to get into a dialogue with China and let the UN matter get settled down the road. The basic line of our policy is to get serious dialogue going with the People's Republic of China.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=1169.45,1192.02"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tTaiwan is not really an interest which we have, but a history. Whether the PRC will become a hostile 15 years down the road doesn't really affect our policy today. What we want is to have a dialogue which can enable China to come into the international community.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=1192.02,1219.05"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502/transcript/16660/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tWe want to avoid legalistic disputes in the UN but we would like to bring her to the world community. End tape two of Boston trip.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17758/file/93502#t=1219.05,1351.0"}]}]}]}