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When your Chairman said that he was looking forward with excitement to what I was gonna say that's how Jimmy Carter feels before one of his own press conferences.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=3.0,38.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [APPLAUSE]\n\u003e\u003e I, well, Speak to you relatively briefly but a survey of foreign policy and then making some general observations and then I'll take your questions. Briefly in my cases the relative.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e For anybody with a Teutonic background, it takes me about half an hour to place my first word.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=38.0,98.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e In foreign policy, the most difficult process that any policymaker faces. It is that when his scope for action is relatively his knowledge on which to base that action is at a minimum. When his knowledge is greater his scope for action has frequently disapear, so all of foreign politics really depends on the willingness.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=98.0,145.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd the ability of the leaders to act on the basis of an assessment that they cannot prove correct when they make it. And of course, it depends on the correctness of that assessment. If the theory on which they operate is wrong, it doesn't matter how clever they are and how many bright people there are around, things are gonna get out of control.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=145.0,185.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow this was obscured for the greater part of American history because we were overwhelmingly strong until the end of World War II we were secure behind two great oceans. Therefore, we could ship the burden of difficult decisions to other countries to Americans World War I and World War II appeared to be a fight about world domination.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=185.0,218.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut we have to remember that neither in 1914 nor in 1939 did the American government of the time understand it as such and we depended on Britain and other allies to hold the fort. Now there is no Britain that can make these difficult decisions, we have to make them or they will not be made at all.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=218.0,246.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAfter 1945 we were economically so that we could always overcome any problems with resource. But We're in the immediate post war period we represented 52% of the economy of the non communist world. Today we represent 35% and 10 15 years from now we will represent 25% and we are going down.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=246.0,283.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nUnder those circumstances, we can no longer wait for providence to become overwhelming before we deal with it. We now have to conduct foreign policy as other countries have always had to conduct, with some understanding of the nature of what we're up against. And in what I would call a precautionary mode a precautionary mode I mean that you cannot wait for events to have taken from which still all debate.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=283.0,326.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLet me give you an example, in 1975 we first became aware when I was still in office, we first became aware that within the space of 3 months. The Soviet Union had sent $250 million worth of arms to Angola, more arms in that year than all the rest of the world were sending to all the rest of Africa, together.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=326.0,359.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI could not say that we cared greatly which of the three were in fact in Angola was going to win, as long as it was an internal Civil War and Angola was far away. But once the Soviet Union introduced used that amount of in such a short time.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=359.0,389.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOur analysis was, those of us in office at the time, was that we now faced a totally different problem on a continent in which nations really reflect the administrative boundaries of colonial rulers. And no common tradition that characterizes nations in almost any other part of the world. In a continent in which they, almost every nation has to communicate internally in the language of the former colonial powers.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=389.0,427.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhere power is held substantially Entry by force, and where every government is extremely insecure. If the principle is established that the Soviet Union can make or break governments, or that the side that is backed by the Soviet Union will always prevail. Then no abstract philosophy of humanitarianism or economic aid is going Going to do any good.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=427.0,463.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd when these $250 million of Soviet arms were followed by Cuban troops, we faced yet another problem. A miserable Caribbean island of 9 million, 70 miles off our shores was sending expeditions forces into Africa. With Soviet support and the United States could not accept the principle that this country could work, do this with impunity while [COUGH] the That was our theory.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=463.0,505.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe theory on which our administration operated we were stopped by the Congress for a sum that this corporation could easily have afforded. I don't know easily, but it could probably have afforded it.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Don't overdo it Henry.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e At any rate, it was humiliating, we needed $35 million, and we could and the cut us off, at a time when all later intelligence proved the Cubans had already decided to quit.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=505.0,542.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd they were rescued by our own internal decision the people who opposed us had a different theory. They thought that the United States would prevail by economic aid by identifying itself with the wave of the future, whatever that is, and by turning policy into an abstract popularity contest.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=542.0,571.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWell, the result is that the troops in Angola were followed by troops in Ethiopia and Ethiopia is again not just an African property. Ethiopia presented all the African issues that I've described plus the fact that it is right across the Red Sea from Saudi Arabia. That it controls the headwaters of the Nile and therefore, one has to look in my Perception I look at the Soviet African activities as aimed at the Middle East.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=571.0,617.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd the Persian Gulf first by seizing key strategic positions and secondly by creating the image of Soviet omnipotence and American weakness and a resolution. And on top of it, it makes the situation in Southern Africa [INAUDIBLE]\nmore complicated. If the Cubans had been defeated in Angola, it would have been a minor investment.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=617.0,657.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd almost and I think as certain to succeed as any of these operations. Ethiopia already became much more difficult and by the time it reaches South Africa it will be more difficult still. Now we now have a similar problem in Rhodesia and again, everything depends on the assessment one make.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=657.0,691.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe assessment that would be made by people, represented by at the end, except that we have to identify also was a radical advocate. Tanzania, Mozambique, a little to a lesser extent Nigeria I wouldn't put them in the totally radical category but on the whole they tend to support the radical causes On the theory, that is the way of the future.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=691.0,727.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI confess, I pose a different view. I do not believe, we cannot win over Tanzania or for that matter Nigeria. Their image of themselves depends on what they call none alignment. The more we move towards them, the further we drive them to the left because the last thing they will want is to be known as a pro-imperialist colony.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=727.0,761.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAll we do as a result, is to radicalize the entire situation. In Rhodesia, I have always heard that the present white minority government could not survive over an adaptment period. Secondly, that it is extremely important to have a settlement in which the black majority and the white minority can coexist happily.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=761.0,801.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI have favored on the whole the so called internal sentiment because if the radicals prevail in Rhodesia then South Africa will be surrounded by a string of States each dedicated to a militant solution of the problem. If every racial problem in Africa has been solved by force, then a race conflict in South Africa will be almost inevitable.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=801.0,841.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I do not believe that we can possibly compete with the Cuban and with the Soviets on and in such a conflict. We will be pushed from one position of disadvantage to another with a horrendous impact on our own domestic situation. Of I believe that objectively though we say that we have supported, that we are neutral, objectively under the table.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=841.0,881.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe are trying to wreck the so called internal solution. And we are in the absurd position that we are opposing in Africa the people who want to have free elections. And to supporting the people who want to shoot their way into power, precisely because they know they couldn't win an election.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=881.0,904.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow if this only concerned Rhodesia, we could say we cannot solve the world's problems. But it doesn't only concern Rhodesia, it concerns our fundamental position in Africa and ultimately it will affect our position in the world. I would hate to see the entire supply of chrome in the world in the hands of either the Soviet Union or a radical government.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=904.0,942.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nEven though this is not my principal reasons were of this particular point of view. My principal reason is that a race war in South Africa is going to split our own country. You can imagine seeing blacks and whites killing each other on television every evening. We may see reappear some of the dilemmas we had during the Vietnam War of domestic detention.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=942.0,979.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnother area in which the theory governs reality of what can be done is the area of human rights That one of the current perceptions is, That the United States, by advocating human rights, identifies itself with the aspirations of all of humanity. That we become popular around [INAUDIBLE] and that will represent the way of the future.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=979.0,1029.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFirst of all, there's no question that the United States should stand for its own values. There's no doubt that insofar as we can express a preference we should express it for democracy, human dignity and constitutional rights. The issue is not whether we should stand for our preferences, but what we're going to do about it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1029.0,1057.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow I would separate it into two parts. One, relations with the communist countries. Second, relations with the rest of the world. Now as far as relations where the communist countries are concerned. We have to understand one thing. If we insist on their domestic transformation, we are going to the very heart of their control system.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1057.0,1087.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe are attacking what in their mind distinguishes communists from everybody else. Now if we are willing to do that, we have to be ready to have a confrontation lasting an extended period of time in which we are prepared to draw brutal consequences. If we are not prepared to do this, we are simply creating a situation in which they can demonstrate our impotence to their own people.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1087.0,1121.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd in which they are using our proclamations to destroy their own dissidents and make us look ridiculous to other countries. You cannot say that refusing to sell a computer, [COUGH] That they can also buy elsewhere to a Soviet news action. It's a possibly adequate response to trying people with whom the President has identified himself in the same week that our Secretary of State is seen step on the ministry.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1121.0,1162.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I say that even though I happen to believe they will release [INAUDIBLE] and the other people which will give us another problem. Are we gonna buy Soviet citizens from the Soviet Union by expanding trade every time they release somebody? Now this is the problem with the Soviet Union.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1162.0,1188.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut what concerns me the most is the implication of the human rights policy in other parts of the world. In 1969, when I came into office, we sent [INAUDIBLE] and wherever he went he was greeted by chaos, by riot, [INAUDIBLE] the airport. When they had to mobilize two divisions [INAUDIBLE].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1188.0,1229.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThis has changed, Not because of our human rights policy, it has changed because pro-American military governments have taken over in a number of these countries. Now in many of these countries there is no democratic alternative. The alternative is between left wing extremism and a sort of benevolent military rule that is attempting to evolve over a period of time into a more democratic rule.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1229.0,1269.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe objective [INAUDIBLE] of our President, if they succeed will be to bring to power people who even though they use our policies are basically opposed to us. Or else if they do not succeed they will antagonize the people in office. There is no law of nature that says in military government in Brazil or Argentina must be pro United States.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1269.0,1303.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe've seen in Peru and elsewhere, just speaking of Latin America, that it is quite easy. In fact, more popular for these military governments to try to get the support of the traditional nationalists and that by them being against the United States. And in other parts of the world the operational consequence of committing idea logs to run an aspect of foreign policy will be to weaken the pro American boys.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1303.0,1338.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd to have as the objective of our attacks on allies and preferably weak allies. Now in foreign policy unfortunately, we do not pay a price for misconceptions immediately. You can go along for quite a while, while capital is being consumed. And the United States is still so strong that we can prevail in our politics and even have the appearances of success.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1338.0,1395.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut in foreign politics, as I divulge in all other politics, sooner or later a price will be paid. And our infinite belief that we can engineer everything and manipulate every situation can create catastrophe. Let me give you an example of the fix. If you read Art Ledger's book on the 1,000 days, you will find he devotes about ten pages to what he considered one of their great achievements namely the so called opening to the left in it until, Til that time there were in Italy two socialist parties, Social Democrats Who refused to cooperate with the communists and the left wing totalists.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1395.0,1451.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWho were in alliance with the communists in all the provinces and also in the Italian policies. Under tremendous American pressure, the Italian government of that time took in the left wing socialists into the government. The theory was left wing totalists break with the. They would isolate the communists and then all the democratic forces would be united.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1451.0,1488.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt turned out to be the wrong theory but first of all the left wing did not break with the communists. They They were in the weird position that they governed with the communists in the provinces and with the Christian democrats in Rome,. Thereby creating an institutionalized schizophrenia where nothing could get her.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1488.0,1508.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSecondly, it wrecked the social democrats because once. Both those parties were in the government there was no distinguishing characteristic anymore to the social democrats. Third to direct the free enterprise liberal party which was expelled from the government in order to get the left wing totalists. And the end result of this procedure was that Italian politics got polarized.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1508.0,1537.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBetween the Christian democrats and finally wrecked the left wing totalists too, because they were in such an ambiguous position between the communist and Christian Democrats. That they lost their voters and therefore today far from creating a barrier to the communism. It has created the contemporary situation that the communists to all practical purposes in the government have a veto power on all appointments have a veto power on all legislation.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1537.0,1569.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI say this too [INAUDIBLE] that in foreign policy, the price will be paid. In foreign policy, the most important necessity is to get on top of events. It is to attempt to circumscribe the freedom of movement of your opponent and to try to shape events in the light of one's purpose.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1569.0,1601.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFor this is as important to understand what is given in a situation that cannot be changed, and where the margin of division is. If one creates the impression that history starts on inauguration day, and that everything can be changed. One really works one only concludes by working oneself into a position of intricacy.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1601.0,1629.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nUnderstanding the margin of decisions is the precondition of success. Now one of the [INAUDIBLE] illusions of Americans [INAUDIBLE] we, alone, of all the countries in the world can prevail through the purity of our motive. And the eloquence of our leader and that we, for the first time in human history, are going to construct an international environment, [INAUDIBLE] on love.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1629.0,1670.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd understand it, and cooperate. It's a treatment. And I wish anyone, Every piece of luck.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e But I must say that something that has not happened in 5,000 years of recorded human history might indicate that it is not the most probable outcome within one presidential term.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1670.0,1722.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAll of foreign politics has to begin with some fundamental geopolitical consideration. Now this is very painful to Americans, and we have no tradition for it. Britain in the 19th century fought innumerable wars to keep the port of out of the hand of a major European power. Even if that country was governed by archangel, even if there was a referendum in which 99.9% of the people voted for it, Britain wouldn't have it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1722.0,1761.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBecause they concluded control of the seas was essential to their survival and if they lost that, they didn't care how it came about. Now, this makes it's central correct to have some undependent of what the elements, the geopolitical elements are, until the many that this is an international group.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1761.0,1789.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI don't know how many of you do business in the Middle East. Those of you who know Ira- Iran and the Middle East know the impact on their perception of security on Annopol Soviet action in Ethiopia. Another event which no attention had been paid is the takeover of Afghanistan and the coup in South Yemen.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1789.0,1823.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAgain Britain in the 19th century when it governed the subcontinent fought innumerable wars to keep Russia from dominating Afghanistan. Because they concluded that if Afghanistan were under Russian control this would directly affect the security of the subcontinent. It could have been wrong but that it couldn't be an accident.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1823.0,1853.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThat through our history, whenever it was possible, Afghanistan was kept as sort of a buffer. Now, recently, indeed, the week last our Secretary of State was in Moscow, the Soviets in effect took over Afghanistan Why would they take over a country which was already leaning towards it, in which we did not have a major interest.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1853.0,1879.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think it had to be as a warning to all the surrounding countries where the balance of power was in that area and the sense of disquiet, this must create in Pakistan. In Iran, in Saudi Arabia, which is now, moreover, additionally threatened by the communist's who, in South Yemen, which in turn is linked to Ethiopia by military arrangement.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1879.0,1910.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThese are three political realities against which no economic aid program can possibly prevent. Therefore, the biggest danger, in effect, is a gradual loss of control. I had a great deal to do with the opening to China and I dragged my share of toes through the proposition that it was unnatural for the American and Chinese people to be separated, it was total nonsense.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1910.0,1955.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt is not at all unnatural for the Chinese and American people to be separated, the Chinese have lived for 3000 years very happily without contact with the American people.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e And they would like, they could live another 3,000 years.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Without any sense of deprivation.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1955.0,1976.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Without the American people, if it were not for their profound fear of the Soviet Union. What the Chinese want from us is not Taiwan but the maintenance of the world balance of power. The Chinese are the most cold blooded analysts of the world balance of power, and the most brilliant, that I have encountered.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=1976.0,2007.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThey watch these trends Afghanistan happens, so they have a with them. They watch Afghanistan and Ethiopia and. They want to know which way the trend is going. They may not be able to do much about it themselves untill they modernize and again in strength but they did not so buy it 3,000 years for attacking Luther, And therefore, the future orientation of China depends crucially on what they perceive their talents to be.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=2007.0,2054.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow in any event, we would have a serious problem with the world balance of power, whatever our theory is in the 50s and 60s we could maintain it because we had nuclear their predominance. And therefore, the Soviet Union could not use its conventional superiority around the world, around the peripheral areas and it did not have Have the means to protect its power at long distances.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=2054.0,2089.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIn any event, nuclear weapons tend toward parody, because they're so destructive that a finite amount Amount produces equivalent and therefore the possibility of resorting to it to them, in a general becomes more and more remote. In 1962 when President Kennedy thought he was facing Armageddon over Cuba the Soviets had 70 long range missiles that it took ten hours.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=2089.0,2125.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd we possess about 2,000 delivery systems. In 1973 when we went on alert, in the Mid-East crisis, the Soviet Union possessed something like 2,000 missiles. But we had an advantage of about five or six to one in warheads. Violent was good [INAUDIBLE] without 2000 [INAUDIBLE] they could have killed tens of millions of Americans.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=2125.0,2157.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nMilitary men looking at [INAUDIBLE] up to late 70s. In the 1980s it would no longer exist. Almost all of our [INAUDIBLE] had been delayed or [INAUDIBLE]. even better they would have a major part. Without them I'm not saying we will become vulnerable. I'm saying 1973 we went on alert at midnight and the soviet's quit at noon the next day.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=2157.0,2192.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSimply said to us alright your on alert what are you gonna do next? Which is what What they will say in 1982. So that is a problem which we would face in any event. And when you compound it with the gradual loss of control in key areas we could have an extremely uncomfortable world in the 1980s.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=2192.0,2221.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIn the immediate future I expect things to come [INAUDIBLE] So, I wanted to put before you these general considerations of the impact of theory on policy. Because usually I'm asked tactical questions, what would you do in this or that situation? These questions are very hard to answer if you are not in the middle of operational control.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=2221.0,2257.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut what is easier to answer and what is more important, is not what specific move which you make, but on what seal are you operates. What ii it that you are trying to accomplish? Is that attainable? Is it relevant? What makes us believe that a human rights campaign will make us popular?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=2257.0,2282.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIf you look at the practice of the country's concern why would we think that in Nigeria that is the element that made us popular? If it were so popular they'd be practicing it. So this is what I wanted to put before you as a set of general propositions.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=2282.0,2310.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow I'll be glad to answer questions on specific areas of policy. And there are no embarrassing question. I can take care of myself so feel free to ask anything you want. And I would love it if the chairman would tell Alan Greenspan that I answered all economic questions.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=2310.0,2349.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd that there's nothing left for him to talk about.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e It would break his heart.\n\u003e\u003e [APPLAUSE]\n\u003e\u003e Just one point. We have assured Dr. Kissinger that he is free to say his thoughts and they will not leave this room. There will be no Folks outside you.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=2349.0,2375.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWith that, who's first? Ed?\n\u003e\u003e First of all I'd like to say that I wish you were addressing us as secretary of state instead of former secretary of state. I think the sentiments that you expressed this morning at least a lot of us agree with you. Trying to relate your comments where we have had and discussed amongst ourselves the last couple days as a business enterprise.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=2375.0,2406.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI'd wanted you to comment on with this Soviet threat, you wanna call it that? Is the way that we should perhaps approach the business community I mean, of doing business with the soviets whether it's computes are otherwise, is there in your mind the prospect that business and cooperation with the Soviets can raise their populace to an economic level where it can start reducing these kind of pressures and where their own people will have to participate to a greater extent in their own decisions.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=2406.0,2447.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Well, that's. That's a very complex question to answer because it doesn't have a clear cut answer. Let me first give you a brief assessment of the Soviet system, and then get to your question. My assessment of the Soviet system is that it is politically, and economically, and sociologically but military extremely strong our case maybe exactly the opposite.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=2447.0,2482.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe trouble is that it is not clear if that isn't inevitable that the country that live necessarily prevails. The Might have had a much better standard of living than their own. But, very little history has been written by Carthaginians after the Romans leveled the city. The problem of the Soviets, they have a number of massive problems.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=2482.0,2521.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOne is the serious phenomenon that no Communist state has ever had in legitimate succession. Leaders either died or they're removed by coups. But, there is no way you can replace a leader. And there is no way that leader dares to resign because no leader has ever survived his own death much less retirement.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=2521.0,2549.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e As soon as they're out of office, all of their associates get purged. And have to get purged, because the only way you can run such a complicated bureaucracy in which there are no checks and balances and in which there is no objective standard is by getting your own people into all the key positions.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=2549.0,2571.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nYou cannot lead somebody else's people In there, so in all the communist countries, all the leaders grow old together and that creates tremendous rigidity and I would assume that a great deal of effort in the Soviet Union, luckily for us, on maneuvering for the succession of. What they would do with the younger effective leadership under the present circumstances, I just tremble to think.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529#t=2571.0,2605.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73529/transcript/8406/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd luckily for us, and immediate crisis, the reason I think we're going to have two or three years of relaxation is because they needed to sort out their own leadership crisis. The second problem is that economically, that system simply cannot work. 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And wouldn't know enough about the government to know how to manipulate it. So, it's a very tough decision for business enterprise to take on a big government, and decide how they're going to affect it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=3.0,19.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo then, the question is what should be the national policy of the United States and even more so what should be the policy of all the other industrial democracies? We put some restraints on credit in 1975 by our Congress. The only result had been that West Europe and Japan have extended credits of about $40 to $50 billion which makes them over a period of time more dependent on the Soviet Union than the Soviet Union is on them.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=19.0,50.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd so, it comes down to your question, does improving the Soviet economy generate a degree of dependance on the west that induces restraint or does it solve the Soviet domestic problems? And therefore, they can continue to devote a large share of their resources to military purposes while we take care of their domestic economy, it's really what.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=50.0,76.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhat it comes down to. And there's no simple answer to that question. My view has been that I believe individual businesses cannot make this decision. I believe that what governments ought to do, is to set up specific criteria by which trade with the Soviet world is regulated, licensing or whatever, system is used.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=76.0,101.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIf this criteria should depend not on what the Soviet Union does domestically but what it does in foreign policy. In other words, we must demand restraint International behavior if it is not possible therefore it is possible. But it is crazy to extend $50 billion dollars worth of credit so that the Soviet Union can pay Cuba a $1 billion a year to conduct foreign operation all over Africa.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=101.0,133.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think it is dangerous to make the economies of the industrial democracies so heavily dependent on trade with the Soviet Union. And therefore, we need a coherent policy of credits in the all country follow and then. Within the policy let the individual witnesses and banks compete with that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=133.0,161.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI might say I made that I advance the proposition and a conference of international bankers the probably the leading commercial bankers in the world in Mexico plus me. And it was very amusing to me the night people. They were all madly communist at a cocktail party and they had all complained about the weakness of the United States.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=161.0,183.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhen I made this proposition that there should be a coherent credit policy, most of the European bankers went into orbit. They were very anti-communist as long as somebody else did it. So my view, to sum it up, is this. I think that if we have a coherent policy.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=183.0,203.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe can each trade as a matter of governmental policy, if we get something for it. And if the Soviet Union conductor is trained foreign policy over a period of time, I think this will then create certain patterns that will be hard to break. And this is what why we had what we called the Theory of Lineage.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=203.0,225.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhenever they did something in the international field that we approved of, we gave a few additional license. I'm licensed trade in which they can choose among competing end of prices and get credit all over the world, I think it's gonna lead to a disaster for us all. It's gonna create an enormous dependence which already is very strong in Germany and in Europe.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=225.0,251.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIn general, on the Soviet economy. In a modern economy, the debtor is on the stronger position than the creditor. And if I'm in favor paradoxically of being flexible about improving trade, for some of the reasons which you gave, and to do it as a matter of international policy.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=251.0,274.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd it is not something that can be left to businessmen. They simply don't have the capacity individually, they get into an impossible position. Look at the abject behavior of International Harvest when one of their people got picked up. Maury's back there.\n\u003e\u003e Let him shoot recognized, you know the [INAUDIBLE].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=274.0,299.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e I know the ones. This is a good one right here.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Dr Kissinger, you mentioned earlier in your talk that you can't establish a new foreign policy each inauguration day, as the Soviets are rigid in their leadership. But I do maintain a foreign policy that's consistent over many, many years.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=299.0,323.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow, we're on the other side of the spectrum. Can we afford to change our foreign policy every four years? Can we really survive in the environment you described? I'll submit to you that the state department that you left two years ago is in chaos today. In fact, the thing that upsets most of the people who deal internationally is the inconsistency of the US policy, good or bad.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=323.0,347.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo, in In two years we'll have a new administration, probably a Republican one. Are we to go through this again each time, or is there any hope that we can establish a long-term policy, go back to bipartisan foreign policy again, or is it too late for that type of thing?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=347.0,364.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nDo you have any good words for us for the future?\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e First of all you said in two years we will probably have a Republican-\n\u003e\u003e Year and a half?\n\u003e\u003e They haven't-\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e They haven't gotten started on each other yet that I see.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=364.0,379.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd you must be under it, the suicidal impulse of the-\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Of the Republican Party.\n\u003e\u003e [APPLAUSE]\n\u003e\u003e So now On the question of changing our foreign policy, I agree with you. Foreign leaders that back us, are not backing an individual, they are backing a country.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=379.0,411.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhen we change our policy, we leave them domestically high and dry. And it doesn't matter whether the previous policy was wrong and the current one is right, or vice versa. The mere fact of these frequent changes of policy will create an incentive for foreign leaders to make themselves as autonomous of us as they can, and as little dependent on our decisions as they can possibly become.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=411.0,433.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd in order to do this, they have to make a whole set of arrangements that do not work in our interests. So I believe very strongly we do need a bipartisan foreign policy. I tried to do it when I was in office. It's also one reason why I am very reluctant to criticize the Administration publicly, because I don't want to undermine confidence in the only administration that we can have at any one point, in conducting foreign policy.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=433.0,465.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOn the other hand, is it possible to have a bipartisan proticol? One, I think we must have, second, we do have this profound philosophical split, but read the approach that I have described to you, you talk about the current state of [INAUDIBLE], what is the real problem? I think the secretary of state is unable to [INAUDIBLE], but the people that were brought in at the second and third level, are all of the point of view that I described earlier, they do not like to think in political [INAUDIBLE].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=465.0,501.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThey believe that the United States can somehow sweep everything before them by essentially conducting an ideological foreign policy for which I discern no overwhelming demand anywhere, in the world. In fact, at the second and third level of the State Department, the people that have been brought in, are substantially the people that my government would have brought in, if he had won in 1972.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=501.0,530.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow these are not necessarily, or not only not necessarily, these are not the views of the Secretary of State. But then, the State Department operates with the various bureaus submitting cables. And the way the Secretary of State exercises control is to approve or disapprove cables, basically. It's a lousy system, and if somebody has time, early in an administration, it must be changed, because even if you are maniacal, as I was, you can't read all the cables.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=530.0,564.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd when you send them back, they'll change it and if you disapprove it, they'll change a word and a comma back, it comes to you. And it gets into a war of attrition between the Secretary of State and the bureaus, but at least, I had people as bureau who were compatible with my philosophy.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=564.0,585.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nHere you have a secretary of state who can't [INAUDIBLE] of that other point of view. Now that creates his problem. I made a statement the other day, I saw Bishop Muzorewa, in which, without totally attacking the administration, I said the internal solution ought to be given a chance, and stated some general principles of what we should stand for in Rhodesia.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=585.0,623.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nMajority rule, protection of minorities, moderate settlements through a political process rather than through arms and similar things. I called the senior official at the State Department to tell him what I had done. Cuz I feel like I owed it to them as a former Secretary of State. They said well, we can live with this.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=623.0,646.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI said not really, because even if you agree with it, under the table all of you are trying to kill the internal solution, while under the table, I will try to strengthen the internal solution, it's an enormous difference and he agreed with me that that was true. Now the problem is how do you attack such a theory and do you, in the name of bipartisanship then, by supporting specific manifestations, any one of which you can live with, compound the ultimate problem?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=646.0,683.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThis is a very serious issue we face. I hate to see, after Vietnam and Watergate, I hate to see another huge national debate on foreign policy. But I also hate to see a constant decline of the American position in the world. I would hope that somewhere, in the near future, we can come to some domestic consensus.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=683.0,703.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt is absolutely imperative. And I do not think that the Republicans should play with foreign policy, for political benefit. And therefore, I've supported the administration on the Greek-Turkish thing, on the Middle East arms package, more or less, and on the Panama Canal. But that doesn't get to the heart of the philosophical problem that I described.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=703.0,741.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e There is in lesser developed countries face both expropriation and nationalization.\n\u003e\u003e I think first of all, it's a general proposition. The only safe position for a multinational corporation is to stay out of politics, because they cannot create enough political confidence in their own organization to conduct an active policy.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=741.0,770.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThey should have enough confidence to make the correct analysis of what is going on in the country in which they're working because their survival may depend on it. But I do not believe that multinational corporations ought to conduct their own foreign policy, even less their own domestic policy.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=770.0,786.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut let me get to the more fundamental question which you raised. We face this paradox in the world today. If countries want to develop, they must rely on private capital, which means on multinational capital. There simply is not enough governmental money around to aid development, to push development on a broad front.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=786.0,815.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd all the less so, is it around for projects that really help development, because by the time it goes through the budgetary processes of various countries and through their bureaucratic procedures The probability of this thing turning into boondaggle is absolutely overwhelming. I use to follow, when I was in office, what happens, I would go a country.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=815.0,838.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I would think it would be a good idea just to show the flag to have some sort of program, sometimes a minor one. And then I would watch with amazement. What would happen as this idea was being implemented. I never could get a program started in less than 3 years.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=838.0,855.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBy which time the impact that one wanted was already dissipated, and they'd get involved in the most stupid kinds of debates. In Cairo the AID was getting involved and were hung up for a year and a half on some bureaucratic fight on what axle. The heighth of axles on buses, and I just had a whole list of horror stories, on which, so it has to be done by private capital and moreover, private capital is less intrusive than any public capital.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=855.0,903.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nEven the small European country has more leverage than a large, multinational corporation in terms of using its. On the other hand, many of the developing countries are operating on the basis of theories that are hostile to private capital, in which they're constant dangers of expropriation. And in, for a variety of reasons, they adopt Marxist theories.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=903.0,929.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nPrimarily, because it gives their leaders a chance to stay in power without the inconvenience of elections. Now, I have always thought that what was absolutely imperative, was some sort of international standard of conduct. In which the host country would prescribe what the multinational could or could not do in the political field, which is perfectly proper.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=929.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd on the other hand, in which the multinationals gained the assurance against expropriation that would permit them to do enough long range planning to make investments worthwhile. While failing that to have some international system. I once put forward a proposal for International Resources Bank, in which loans could be made against the raw materials that would be extracted over a longer period of time.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=960.0,990.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think that this is the big answer our problem of development strategy and none of the others are gonna work. Neither the World Bank, nor the various International Aid Programs are gonna get enough resources under the present declining economies of all of the industrial democracies, to make it possible to have development.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=990.0,1013.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOn the other hand, the individual multinationals can not defend themselves alone against the expropriations of various countries and therefore there is a stalemate. And I have believed that we must find some international guarantees by which the multinationals can operate, it's gonna be extremely difficult to do. Because the political climate, as you know, is quite hostile, but if you look at the areas of the world that have developed rapidly, you will see that those which have made it at least possible for private capital to move, like Latin America.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1013.0,1051.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nHave developed infinitely more rapidly than those who've relied on governmental capital.\n\u003e\u003e Jim?\n\u003e\u003e Doctor, would you comment, please, on your views on Japan on two fronts, first in the medium to short term future with respect to the trading position on the West. And second, what you see longer range as their relationship with China?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1051.0,1082.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e I must say the Japanese are to me a sociological puzzle and miracle, in many ways.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e You can never find, I hope I'm not offending any Japanese in this [INAUDIBLE].\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e It's very rare to find, in Japan, people of the overwhelming individual personality, like a man like as in China.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1082.0,1126.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIn fact, it's very hard to find somebody who admits that he's responsible for making a decision. On the other hand, if you look at the Japanese records since 1945, you have to say that they have made the best and most long-range decisions of any of the industrialized countries.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1126.0,1148.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow, how they worked that system, where there's never anyone you can get a hold of to bring pressure on.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e And where, at the same time, they can act with great decisiveness, I think this is one of the miracles of,\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Of modern decision making.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1148.0,1164.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNormally you would say that a country where people get appointed for life, get promoted by seniority, and where decisions are made by consensus, it's guaranteed stagnation. The Japanese have managed to shift priorities with great skill. It's ruthless determination. They have a deliberate strategy, and you can watch them move from industry to industry, shifting their resources to ever higher technology, a well-elaborated strategy.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1164.0,1193.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think they have a perfectly sensible strategy now, of accumulating reserves, which they will then use to invest in China and Southeast Asia. So that they guarantee themselves the raw materials that they need. So I think that they show what a country that really is very proud of its peculiarity and which has managed to insulate itself, with all its contacts, so that it is basically opaque to foreign pressure.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1193.0,1234.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think that that is extraordinary performance. But that wasn't your question, your question was, what's gonna happen in the middle-term and the long-term future? Now, if you look at Japanese history, you will find that the Japanese, just because they're so convinced of their cultural peculiarity, or singularities, have managed to adapt to what they consider to be the prevalent trend of the period.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1234.0,1266.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIn the 1860s they shifted from feudalism to a form of authoritarianism very rapidly, and amazingly rapidly industrialized, because they decided Japanese survival required it. It was a spectacular performance. In 1945 they switched from authoritarianism to democracy, with equally amazing speed. Not because we had been extraordinarily persuasive, with abstract, intellectual argument.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1266.0,1298.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut because the balance of power of that period, brought that with it. Now therefore, what Japan will do will depend, in my view, on the perception by the Japanese, of where the balance of power in the world is. Japan will not go down with a losing cause, if it can possibly avoid it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1298.0,1318.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd you can't blame them for this. I'm not saying this as criticism, I am saying this as a fact. Second, therefore I can't give you a clearcut answer. If the Chinese conclude, and the Japanese conclude, that the United States is no longer relevant In the Western pacific. Charming and brilliant and lovable as we are.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1318.0,1343.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThen I believe that they will move closer together and maybe closer to the Soviet Union too. At least close enough to the Soviet Union so that they don't have to fear constantly an attack. At any rate they will move closer together. If they believe we are a relevant factor then that day can be staved off.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1343.0,1367.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIn any event, I expect ever closer cooperation between China and Japan for the next five to ten years. Now what we need with Japan is some strategy. I know the Japanese trade surplus is very painful to us, but we cannot every year go through a cycle of blackmailing the Japanese.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1367.0,1393.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWithout creating a situation in which the Japanese sooner or later will try to make themselves independent of that black man. And we have to come to some sort of a long range understanding with them, whatever it is. Because if we win too many of these battles, first of all, we never really win them.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1393.0,1412.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhat we win is a piece of paper. And then that wondrous system begins to operate and at the end of it we had a part where we were without the piece of paper. So the long range orientation of Japan will be one of the problems of the 80s.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1412.0,1431.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI personally believe that the Japanese will rearm sometime in the 80s and will conduct a more independent national policy. I've said this in interviews in Japanese newspapers. I'm not recommending it. But I'm predicting that this is gonna happen. Not under this prime minister and maybe not yet under the next one.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1431.0,1451.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut I think probably after the one after that. And the longer orientation of Japan requires careful attention in my opinion.\n\u003e\u003e Sergio. I'm missing anybody over there.\n\u003e\u003e Somebody had been drunk over there.\n\u003e\u003e Is he really? I-\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Kissing game. Since I'm an Italian, I'm quite interested to know your point of view.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1451.0,1480.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd more than that, what the American foreign policy is doing. Or even worse, what are not doing in maintaining the present balance of power in Yugoslavia. I know that people like to do everything possible to stay as long as possible in life but some day after all he's missing something and will die.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1480.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd that will be for sure a best case study for both Russian and United States to demonstrate to all the work, how they can maintain their power and balance and to show their strength mess with the other people.\n\u003e\u003e The problem in a case like Yugoslavia is, I think Tito's case is a good demonstration of what I indicated earlier.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1500.0,1531.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThere is no system of replacing leaders in any communist state. And here you have a man who is in his mid-80s now, and albeit still vigorous but there is no system of succession. He has set up a system of succession which is so absurd that it can not possibly survive him and he's only set it up in such a way.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1531.0,1556.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nHe set up a rotating each of the republics. The head of each of the republics gets one month of governing Yugoslavia in rotation after his death and this cannot possibly work but it also prevents a successor from emerging and while he's alive and therefore gives him the possibility of continued control.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1556.0,1581.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd another problem in any communist country is it almost impossible, not almost, it's totally impossible for an outsider to predict who will it emerge for the very simple reason because from the outside it could predict it the fellow in power could also predict it and that fellow wouldn't belong for this well.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1581.0,1602.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo if you look at each of the successions, it's always be no one thought that cruise job would succeed starving that will have been considered absolutely insane will almost unknown in the 60s professional was considered a rather mediocre member of the private bureau who they had made president which is not a very honorific job.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1602.0,1628.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt's an honorific job but it doesn't have many very operational job and suddenly he merges as a result of kind of coup and maybe his own colleagues thought he was pretty mediocre which is why they put him in there figuring he couldn't get total control. Now in Yugoslavia it is impossible to predict now what will happen.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1628.0,1653.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWill the various nationalities try to break up? Will the Croats try to become semi-autonomous or autonomous? Will there be a split within the communist party? Will it be a fight among communist factions? Or will it be a fight among nationalities? Will one man emerge or how will it happen?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1653.0,1675.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWill somebody call in the Russians? I don't know and nobody knows. Now what can we do? I would think that if the Soviets occupy Yugoslavia and get away with it that the impact on Western Europe would be profound. Certainly in Italy it would be profound all over Europe.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1675.0,1699.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo, I think we cannot accept it. But to get contentions planning made for that is not easy. First of all because it would leak. And secondly because you don't know exactly what contentions to address. But I am a great believer in this proposition. I think that the head of an organisation, at least the head of a governmental organisation I don't know [INAUDIBLE] he's primary function is not to do the things but to make people do what they may not want to do or what they would not think of doing or to take the burden himself.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1699.0,1746.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think the guideline that the Western leaders must give to themselves is that we cannot submit Yugoslavia to be overrun by the soldiers. Now, how you then implement this, that gets to be very complicated. And it's very important that the soldiers understand ahead of time that this would not be Czechoslovakia if they involved there, and maybe the Yugoslavs will manage a calm transition, can't be excluded.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1746.0,1779.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut it's very difficult in communist leadership groups to have calm transitions. Because these people have risen to high office, as a result of a very, of a ruthless bureaucratic process in which the penalty for losing is not transferred to another department but total disgrace. And when they get that high they want to be rewarded for it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1779.0,1806.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo I would think that odds are better that even,that there would be some succession strugglers.\n\u003e\u003e Rise and then one more question. That is approaching 12 o'clock.\n\u003e\u003e Thank you. Dr. Kissinger, you implied that Taiwan was quite a secondary issue in China's pursuit for normalization. What is, in your opinion, the political future of Taiwan following normalization?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1806.0,1836.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Well, I don't believe that normalization as such is or need be an overwhelming objective. What does normalization mean? That a Liaison Office in Peking would be transformed into an embassy. Operationally, what would be the difference? I think next to none. That means that our ambassador would get invited to social functions when visiting heads of government there and be in the protocol list of the Chinese foreign office.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1836.0,1875.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe Chinese don't have social contact with anybody, Liaison Office or embassy. The Chinese see you when they want something and they don't believe in idle social chit-chat. And when you get summoned by them, you know they want something. And, yeah, they see no necessity to reveal their thoughts.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1875.0,1897.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOtherwise, I believe, incidentally, that our Liaison Office has more contact with the Chinese than almost any embassy in Peking, for the very simple reason that the Chinese need us more than others. So I don't see what particularly will change, as a result of the so-called normalization. I'm not against normalization, I just don't think we ought to pay a horrendous price for it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1897.0,1925.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd especially at this moment when we've still announced the withdrawal from Korea, and there's in any case a question whether we're withdrawing from the Western Pacific. And therefore, some of the schemes on Taiwan that I've heard about, what have the inevitable practical consequence of raising serious questions of even in the Chinese mind whether this is a general withdrawal.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1925.0,1951.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow what will be the future of Taiwan, a lot depends on how the so-called normalization comes about. The Chinese don't have the military capability to occupy Taiwan right now nor do I think they want to expend it on occupying Taiwan as long as there's a war about the north.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1951.0,1969.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd therefore, for us to withdraw our military protections and not necessarily improve our relations with the Chinese. Because they need an alibi for why they're not taking Taiwan so they will either ask us to cut off any military supply in which case Taiwan would collapse. Would they let us continue military supply to what would then be a province of their own country in our legal terminology, which cannot last indefinitely, and which they would constantly attack.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=1969.0,2001.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think after normalization, Taiwan can have another 10, 15 years of existence. It depends how strong the Chinese get, how scared of the Russians they become. They might even coexist, for a while. The major change would be psychological. But I don't see any necessity for hurrying that date.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2001.0,2029.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI just don't see what we get out of it.\n\u003e\u003e Very good. Dr. Kissinger, I've ignored the non-smokers. So we'll let two questions, please if you don't mind. And there were two hands up, one's there and one's there.\n\u003e\u003e Excuse me, recognizing that the present congress has little taste for foreign military ventures.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2029.0,2059.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nYou think it should be a policy of the government to perhaps use surrogate armies in the future Angola and Ethiopia. Countries we've already armed perhaps.\n\u003e\u003e It's a very hard question to answer. Now, first of all, let me make clear, in Angola, there was never any question of using American forces, never.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2059.0,2087.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIn Angola, we could have prevailed in a variety of ways into which I don't want to get but never was there any consideration given to using American military forces in any way. What we needed was money to support the indigenous forces that were resisting plus perhaps some of the sort of things that the French were doing in Zaire.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2087.0,2112.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo I would say that generally, there are countries that we could use in local crises to help balance the situation. But we have to be perceived as being prepared to hold the against the Soviet Union. Because if we don't do this, we're simply inviting massive pressures by the Soviet Union on those countries.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2112.0,2140.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIran for example, everyone knows that they had troops in Oman against the guerilla war from South Yemen. Now, they could get away with this because of our military umbrella over them. If the Soviet Union ever should get the idea that [INAUDIBLE] pressure on Iran where it would not involve us, then I think Iran would be absorbed entirely in its own internal security and mountingly so.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2140.0,2173.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo to some extent, yes, it can be done but I'd hate to make a general rule. And I also would hate to spread the proposition around the world that there is nothing for which the United States will fight, because that really invites pressures. I agree with you that congress has an enormous distaste and I don't see a concrete issue now that would require American forces.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2173.0,2201.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFor example, none of the issues that I mentioned, Ethiopia, Angola and so forth where in my judgement, would it have been wise to involve American combat forces. But if we're not involved in American combat forces and making the Soviets pay for their ventures, there are many steps that you can take.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2201.0,2224.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I just cannot believe that a little country like Cuba cannot be made to pay a price that over a period of time, it cannot accept. And if you don't do this, I find it offensive that every evening, we can now see on television a conflict in Cuba.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2224.0,2245.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nEach day of which is devoted to a general assault on the United States on American national television. And this shows an increasing disdain for us, even at a time when we're trying to normalize.\n\u003e\u003e Last question.\n\u003e\u003e Dr. Kissinger, you paint something of a bleak picture about American foreign policy, in that you say that it is perhaps not formulated adequately.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2245.0,2279.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhat about the Russian foreign policy, do you see it as being crystallized? And if so, is it founded in Ideological, economic, or some other foundation. Well, on American foreign policy. You have to make allowances for the fact that for people no longer in office. They may think that history ended when.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2279.0,2317.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e And they can't bear the thought that somebody else might do it well. So you can make that discount. It is, however, my honest opinion. Not that any one year or any one month is catastrophic. But that, if you observe it over. If you project the existing trend that, in many parts of the world.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2317.0,2351.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThey lead to a gradual loss of American control. For some of the factors that I mentioned, and for some others. And for some that go back to previous administrations. Increasing assertiveness of countries. The tendency to legislate tactical decisions. For that, you can't blame this administration or the previous administration.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2351.0,2371.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThat's a result of Vietnam and Watergate and the whole set of problems. Now, about the Soviet policy. First, I don't think Soviet policy is all that brilliant. The Soviet bureaucracy is extremely muddled up. When we first had to deal with the Soviet Union, for example, on the strategic arms limitation talks.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2371.0,2395.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt became obvious to all of us that the Soviet political people, who were not members of the Politburo. Knew less about Soviet deployments than we did. And, in fact, there was one occasion where there were some Russian generals present, and some foreign office people. And our negotiators began talking about Russian deployment.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2395.0,2419.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd the generals took our negotiators aside. And said, would you mind discussing that with us separately? And not in front of our.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Foreign office people. This is actually true. This actually happened. I am confident when I was in office. That before Gromyko became a member of the Politburo.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2419.0,2437.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI knew more about Soviet military deployments than he did. When he became a member of the Politburo. Of course, he knew everything. Because the Politburo gets all the information. So it's a muscle-bound bureaucracy. In areas where we can get, when we can establish a balance of forces. We can usually outmanuever them.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2437.0,2465.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe outmaneuvered them in the Middle East. We're beginning to do it in Southern Africa. They are a rather rigid. Their foreign policy is rigid, stereotype. And actually, if you study their methods over a period of time. They almost always follow exactly the same method. If you can identify how they are likely to see the problem.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2465.0,2488.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe one thing they have going for them, though, is what the gentleman in the last row mentioned. They're unbelievably persistent. When they adopt a policy, even if it's a mediocre policy. They just stick with it, year after year after year. They have no liberal sense of guilt. They have no New York Times that yells about the necessity of coming up with a new proposal.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2488.0,2512.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThey are, not in the slightest, embarrassed, if they make the same proposal five years in a row. At the same time, our people get nervous. They feel they have to make a contribution to the process. They've got to come out with a new idea. So they can sit there and just packet a series of marginal concessions.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2512.0,2529.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nPutting on us the necessity of breaking the deadlock with new ideas. So this tremendous persistence of theirs does give them a considerable asset. Now, are they influenced by ideology or economics or what? I would say they're influenced in foreign policy, least of all, by economics. Because they are a fairly system that they can control and they can manipulate.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2529.0,2561.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd up to now, the economic factors have been relatively secondary. They are influenced by ideology in a certain way. None of them are great ideologies. But it's now been two generations of Marxism, Leninism. And the Communist Party is a very peculiar institution. The Communist Party developed, originally, as an instrument for seizing power.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2561.0,2594.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd it creates the paradox that once it is in office in an elaborated space. It really doesn't have any function. What, exactly, is it that communists are supposed to do in a communist state? They have a government. They have an industrial hierarchy. They have a military hierarchy. So they're a bunch of supernumeraries justifying their existence by ideological vigilance.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2594.0,2616.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThey're a priesthood without a real function. In this sense, they have to maintain the ideological rhetoric. Now, one of the aspects of this ideological rhetoric. Is that, while they may not be all that influenced by economics. They believe we are very much influenced by economics. And they believe that they understand us better than we understand ourselves.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2616.0,2643.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThey treat us the way American psychiatrists treat their patients. So it doesn't make any difference how much you reassure them and what you tell them. And all these demonstrations of goodwill. They always have to ascribe to some objective factor. We give up the b1 and expect reciprocity. Nonsense.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2643.0,2665.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe Soviets don't pay for services already rendered.\n\u003e\u003e [APPLAUSE] [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e The same for the neutron bomb and anything else. They don't even understand it. And in this sense, ideology has an impact on them. But I think what influences the Soviets most are their eternal bureaucratic maneuvering. Imagine running a state in which there is no objective criterion for performance.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2665.0,2692.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNowhere in the Soviet economy is there any criterion except whether they fulfill their own plan. Which they rigged so that they can fail meeting it. There is no party to which anybody has to justify himself. So they have an overwhelming interest in internal bureaucratic manuevering. In a crisis, they become muscle bound.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2692.0,2717.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAt least in my experience. And the only crisis they really handle well is when they can rapidly deploy massive power. Which it usually takes them weeks to make that decision. So I would think they are influenced by a combination of abstract ideology and their own bureaucratic rigidities. It's not a very effective system.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2717.0,2745.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8408/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I think.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=2745.0,2756.67591"}]},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8409","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["ms_1981_s07_b0953_0002_caption.vtt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8409/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Wouldn't understand enough of their\npolitical interest to know how to bring","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=3.3,7.448"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8409/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530#t=7.448,8.94"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17947/file/73530/transcript/8409/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And wouldn't know enough about the\ngovernment to know how to manipulate 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