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I'm in town to give a private talk, non-political. But I thought I'd use the occasion to let me ask you whatever questions press you. So will you tell me what media you are with and then I will answer your question. Yes, sir.\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE] Readers.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=10.0,45.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nDo you think the new mood of militarism in the country in Europe and United States is not military prepared?\n\u003e\u003e I don't sense a mood that I would call militarism in the country. I think that there is an increasing awareness that the United States is militarily not prepared for the crisis that we are facing.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=45.0,67.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd that without adequate security we are deprived of the flexibility and negotiations, and of the ability to influence the events before they get out of hand. So in this sense, I believe that there is a need to restore our defenses, a general awareness of this. But my impression also is that the public wants peace and recognizes that to have a peace of justice, you need to be strong.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=67.0,100.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE] Channel 11, do you think we need to [INAUDIBLE]?\n\u003e\u003e No, I think that it is unfortunately the case that we have to restore them across the board in the field strategic weapons [INAUDIBLE] the equivalent, but only if you measure equivalence by the amount of civilian damage you can inflict.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=100.0,130.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt's my belief that a military nuclear strategy aimed primarily at civilian populations is amoral and puts too heavy a burden on the decision makers and therefore we need it in the field of strategic weapons, a capacity also to deal with military targets. Secondly as a result of this strategic equivalence that has come about in the field of strategic nuclear weapons, there are gaps that have created new opportunities for attacks with conventional weapons and for pressures in regional areas.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=130.0,176.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nEither by the Soviet Union, or by Soviet proxies, or by countries armed by the Soviet Union as we now see in the Persian Gulf. The readiness of our forces has declined in an alarming manner in the last four years. I believe that of the divisions in the United States, not one is in the first category of readiness.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=176.0,205.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd that of that so called dreaded deployment force. Former Secretary of Defense Schlesinger said last week that it is like the Holy Roman Empire, which was neither holy nor Roman or an empire. And the ready deployment force is neither ready nor is it a force nor can it be deployed.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=205.0,227.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I think those are some of the major categories.\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE] In regards to what you just said about the declining military superiority of the United States. Do you feel that President Carter threat to keep the Strait of Hormuz open at any cost it an empty one?\n\u003e\u003e Well, I think that there has been a tendency to make pronouncements that are not backed up by capabilities.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=227.0,254.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think we have the naval power, still, in that area to keep open the Strait of Hormuz against neighborhoods. But if the surrounding land areas fall into hostile hands, we're going to be in much greater difficulties.\n\u003e\u003e Do we have the will for that?\n\u003e\u003e They are the foreign policies to prevent situations from arising in which you have to use military force.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=254.0,285.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd one shouldn't have the national discussion on the issue of who is for piece and who is for war, and who will be rash in a crisis and who will not be rash in a crisis. The art of foreign policy is to prevent the crisis from arising to begin with.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=285.0,301.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e There are those who believe that Iran does not have the capabilities of winning the war with Iraq unless they have help from the United States. Can the US afford to remain neutral in this war?\n\u003e\u003e The United States cannot possibly give military assistance, to any degree of cooperation to a country that holds 52 American hostages.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=301.0,325.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd if the Iranians want any support from the United States of any kind whatsoever, they must release the American hostages. It is a national disgrace even to talk about assisting a country that is holding American hostages, of course. From a geopolitical point of view, our interest is in, it's more on the Iranian side.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=325.0,347.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt is not in our interest that countries armed by Soviet weapons like Iraq and backed up by Soviet friendship treaties dominate the areas in which they're located because that's created an incentive for countries to go with the Soviet Union. But countries also have to learn. That you cannot challenge the United States by taking hostages with impunity.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=347.0,372.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd so if they want to release the hostages and afterwards come back to a normal relationship, that should be open to them. If not, that is the price they they will have to pay.\n\u003e\u003e Dr. Kissinger, Kathy Douglas from. You said last week that you felt that only problem that the American people had was a war between Iraq and Iran also [INAUDIBLE].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=372.0,393.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e It appears from the poll that the American voters might feel the same way about the two presidential Are you giving whole hearted support of Ronald Reagan?\n\u003e\u003e Yes, I am giving whole hearted support to Governor Reagan and George Bush. I don't think it is any secret that Governor Reagan has not always given whole hearted support of everything that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=393.0,426.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThat I did when I was in office never the less on the basis of extended conversations with Governor Reagan, I am convinced that his election is overcoming in the national interest. I believe that present trends will lead to will continue what we are seeing now in the Persian Gulf that is situations that are essentially out of control our vital interest and I therefore think he will have an administration that will prevent these tendencies.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=426.0,464.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd therefore I have supported him and continue to support him.\n\u003e\u003e Carter is a more war-like candidate-\n\u003e\u003e It's not a question of being war-like. No President of the United States who has any sense of responsibility is going to be war-like. And President Carter is also not war-like.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=464.0,482.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut as current administration has lost control over events. In the Persian Gulf, in Central America, in the Middle East, and in other parts of the world. Therefore, there are likely to be increasing challenges to vital American interests which will force decisions of this kind. This is my criticism, not that President Carter is warlike.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=482.0,507.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nHe is not. But President Carter causes situations, or his administration. I don't want to personalize this. His administration has caused situations to arise which threaten the peace of the world and there propose the issue of peace and war.\n\u003e\u003e You said you also believe that the United States has lost the ability to resolve the proliferation of nuclear weapons in the world?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=507.0,532.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Well, the problem of proliferating nuclear weapons is extremely difficult. Because it grows out of the capacity for peaceful uses of atomic energy. And therefore how to do this, how to prevent the proliferation of nuclear weapons is an extremely complicated issue. And it comes down in part to the problem of where you draw the line.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=532.0,559.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThat is, will you agree that some countries are already so far gone that there is nothing that you can do about them and therefore try to make them partners in a non-proliferation policy? Or do you want to be very rigid, very logical, and try to bring pressure on them, on every country, equally.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=559.0,582.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI believe that early in the current administration there was too much of a tendency to bring pressure on countries that really are capable of pursuing their own course no matter what we do. And that this has opened up in fact commercial opportunities to these countries, especially Europe and Japan, which may speed up proliferation.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=582.0,603.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think if you asked me as a historian, I would have to say in all probability the best we can do is to slow down the process, to make it very costly and very painful. But it's gone quite some distance. But I favor a policy of preventing the proliferation of nuclear weapons to the maximum extent that we can.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=603.0,628.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nYes, sir?\n\u003e\u003e Dan Olsen, Minnesota Public Radio, Mr Kissinger. So in regards to the sale of nuclear fuel to India, it was called a judgment call. What would have been your call on that?\n\u003e\u003e I would have proposed it. I don't see that India has done anything for the United States that would warrant special treatment.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=628.0,650.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThey have exploded a nuclear device, which only by courtesy can be called a peaceful device. And I was not in favor of making that exception.\n\u003e\u003e We are getting very conflicting reports on who is winning the war between Iraq and Iran. Based on your contacts in that area of the world, who do you think is winning?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=650.0,675.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd, if I may ask secondly, which country in your opinion would be best for us to win?\n\u003e\u003e Well, I sort of regret that every wisecrack I make gets national attention. I did say a week ago that one unfortunate aspect of that war from United States interest is that only one of them could lose it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=675.0,701.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e And neither country is in the American interest to win. They're both violently hostile to the United States. From a geopolitical point of view, I hate to see every issue settled by Soviet arms and Soviet friendship treaties. And therefore, from that point of view, I do not like to see an Iraqi victory.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=701.0,737.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut the Iranian-Iraqi situation, however, also demonstrates is that the collapse of the pro-Western government in Iran was a geopolitical disaster of the first magnitude. Because as long as that government was in power, and the reason it was armed was to balance off the Soviet arms that went into Iraq.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=737.0,762.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow if Iraq should prevail, then it will become the dominant country in the Arab world and will have a tendency to attract to it even the moderate regimes in the region, that would be very much concerned. It would have a very bad effect on the Arab-Israeli peace negotiations.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=762.0,782.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBecause the Iraqis are totally opposed to any compromise negotiation between Israelis and the Arabs. And because the countries that are needed to have a moderate solution, namely Jordan and Saudi Arabia, both have borders with Iraq. And they're going to be very reluctant to pursue the moderate course if Iraq is the militarily dominant country in the area.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=782.0,805.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo if you ask me from a geopolitical point of view, our friend in that area should have been Iran. But as the Iranian prime minister said only two days ago, calling us for Satan. And he said America was the primary enemy before the war. It will be the primary enemy after the war.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=805.0,830.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd as long as that is the Iranian attitude, for which our policy must bear a certain heavy responsibility, I cannot choose between those two. And it illustrates that this is exactly the sort of situation we must do our utmost to avoid. Yes, sir?\n\u003e\u003e Mark [INAUDIBLE]. What then can the United States do?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=830.0,851.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhat steps do we take to end that conflict and to protect our [INAUDIBLE]?\n\u003e\u003e Well, I think the first thing to recognize is that in the immediate Iranian-Iraqi conflict there is nothing we can do. And that is the measure of the dilemma of our foreign policy. And this is what we have to avoid having recur.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=851.0,872.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd this is one of the reasons why I answered that young lady about my support for Governor Reagan. Now, in the longer term, what we need first is a credible military presence in the Indian Ocean. We announced in January, President Carter announced what I support, namely that the Persian Gulf is of vital interest to the United States.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=872.0,897.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt was not accompanied, however, by the creation of military capabilities to back up the commitment. So we had a new commitment that was not matched by new capabilities. The so-called ready deployment force in the United States is composed of divisions. None of which are really fully ready. And which are, at one in the same time, designated as the strategic reserve for NATO, as strategic reserve for Korea, and as strategic reserve for the Persian Gulf.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=897.0,926.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt would take us 15 days to get the lightest division we have, namely the 82nd Airborne or 101st Airborne division, to the Persian Gulf. 22 days to get a mechanized brigade. One month to get a mechanized division there. Six months to get 100,000 men there. Under those conditions there is no realistic American force.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=926.0,950.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe second thing we have to do is to work out a common strategy with our European allies. It is not possible to say that the forces in Europe are there only for the defense of Europe. When the security of Europe can be jeopardized by the oil supplies in the Persian Gulf.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=950.0,969.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo we have to develop a common strategy with our European allies. And some assignment for the forces that are earmarked for NATO, either by having some joint efforts. Or by making clear which forces can be used for what purpose. And third, we have to create some fire break against the expansion of radical and pro-Soviet forces.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=969.0,996.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBecause whoever is gonna win in this war is going to become a dominant country in that area.\n\u003e\u003e How would the presence of Western military forces in the area prevent squabbles between the [INAUDIBLE] countries?\n\u003e\u003e We can't prevent squabbles between these countries. And squabbles between those countries would not have been of major significance so long as they were not all hostile to us.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=996.0,1021.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nDr. Kissinger, do you support the Reagan's view that the strategic now should essentially be scrapped and not pursued through renewed negotiations should be what he described in his interview yesterday on Associated Press as an arms race.\n\u003e\u003e Well I don't know whether I would use exactly the same phraseology.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=1021.0,1052.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nMy view which I stated before the candidate was elected, is as follows. I believe that when the [INAUDIBLE] SALT agreement was made there was a simultaneous agreement on restrained international conduct. Which laid out certain principles of international conduct. And which defined what was and was not permissible. We are now living in a world in which Soviet troops, Soviet proxies, Soviet arms, Soviet support of terrorism fuels almost every conflict that exists.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=1052.0,1098.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I think it is dangerous to have arms control negotiations totally separate from political negotiation. So the first thing I would think it is necessary to do, is to explore whether it is possible to agree on a code of international conduct. Because if it isn't, there is gonna be an arms race, it isn't possible.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=1098.0,1120.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe have had in the last three years Cuban troops in Ethiopia, a Communist coup in South Yemen and Afghanistan. Soviet troops in Afghanistan. Vietnamese troops supported by the Soviet Union in Cambodia. A Soviet brigade in Cuba, support of all kinds of terrorist organizations around the world. You cannot have an assault on the security of the free world by political and paramilitary means.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=1120.0,1158.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd at the same time pretend that you are settling the arms race. So in this sense I agree with Governor Reagan. I think secondly it is also important for the Soviets to understand. That if there is not an equitable agreement, the United States is prepared to do what is necessary to assure its defense without an agreement.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=1158.0,1184.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhich I suppose you would call an arms race. Third, I think we are probably better of in SALT if we could get to an agreement on principles of conduct. To look at a new ten year agreement, there are only three years left in the SALT II agreement. Even if it could be ratified next year which it can't.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=1184.0,1204.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think it would be much better to look at a new ten year agreement. Which would then have a real impact on long term military plans of both sides. I think it is important to be willing to arm. It is important to be willing to negotiate about arms.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=1204.0,1221.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe need both of these strengths in our policy. But to negotiate about arms, there also has to be an understanding about principles of political conduct.\n\u003e\u003e This is just to follow up, one more question please. The SALT [INAUDIBLE] that now is before the Senate fundamentally incorporates the [INAUDIBLE] of the [INAUDIBLE] requires that were negotiated under your edict.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=1221.0,1244.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut you do not share Governor Reagan's view that the treaty as it stands abstractly if you will is fundamentally flawed.\n\u003e\u003e When I testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee I stated a number of qualifications with respect to SALT II, that the protocol could not be renewwed. That any new negotiations would have to achieve equivalence in the major weapon systems, such as with respect to heavy missiles.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=1244.0,1286.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd that the American defense budget be adequate to remove the weaknesses which I perceived it to have. The protocol is supposed to lapse anyway at the end of 81. But now the administration has started to create a nuclear force negotiations which deal with exactly the same weapons. So the treaty minus the protocol, and with an adequate events program.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=1286.0,1315.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI substantially supported with the qualifications which you can read in the Senate testimony, and I will not change my testimony. But there's no huge difference here. Because I think that we would be better advised starting a new negotiation for a ten year agreement. But I stick by my senate testimony.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=1315.0,1344.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Is simply a nice political word. But is what you're talking about [INAUDIBLE] has something to do with [INAUDIBLE].\n\u003e\u003e Well, I don't think Saudi Arabia would accept American troops, so this is. I think that unless the countries that have a vital interest in that area, which includes the Europeans, not just us.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=1344.0,1366.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nMuch more of European energy comes from that area then ours. One way or the other, partly through a combination of the States in that area, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, others. Partly through whatever outside forces can be created. A military balance has to be created and that is, there is no way around that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=1366.0,1391.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut I'm not saying American troops in Saudi Arabia. But there's no way of avoiding the problem that I have described of the superiority of the radical forces in that area. And unless that is overcome the temptation for aggression will continue to increase.\n\u003e\u003e Dr. Kissinger, during [INAUDIBLE] former President Ford negotiating with Ronald Reagan in July [INAUDIBLE] at the Republican National Convention for Vice Presidential slot with Reagan [INAUDIBLE] was Ford for yourself?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=1391.0,1424.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e No, no wait a minute. Just a second, let me get that straight.\n\u003e\u003e Has he offered you a position in his Cabinet?\n\u003e\u003e First, I participated in these negotiations at the request of Governor Reagan not at the request of President Ford. It was Governor Reagan's associates who asked me to persuade President Ford.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=1424.0,1441.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSecondly, a position for me was never an issue. I made clear to Governor Reagan's associates, as they will tell you, as they would confirm. That under no circumstances could individual positions be discussed as part of an arrangement between President Ford and Governor Reagan. Third, I have never discussed and I would think it high inappropriate to discuss any position from me with Governor Reagan.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=1441.0,1466.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd Governor Reagan has made several public statements during the primary campaign indicating that he would want to bring in new personnel into a Reagan administration. I'm supporting him because I believe it is in the national interest. For him to be elected president. And not because of any position in his administration which I think is extraordinarily unlikely.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=1466.0,1491.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8521/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think we better Thank you very much.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=1491.0,1510.32163"}]},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8522","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["ms_1981_s07_b0990_0001_caption.vtt 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talk,\nnon-political.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=11.455,18.755"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8522/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I thought I'd use\nthe occasion to let me","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=19.89,25.16"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8522/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ask you whatever questions press 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Readers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=42.961,45.928"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8522/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Do you think the new mood of\nmilitarism in the country in Europe and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590#t=45.928,51.029"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17993/file/73590/transcript/8522/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"United States is not military 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