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The impact, I admit, that the South Africans don't really like the Rhodesian. And that from many points of view, if the whites got driven out of Rhodesia, there would be many South Africans who would say it serves you right because you talked about majority rule.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=12.0,31.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd even though you didn't mean it, we don't even talk about it.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e And now, you get what you deserve. But those would be exactly the wrong South Africans. I would have preferred if one could have demonstrated that to make generous concessions to a black majority does not automatically lead to the destruction of, at least, that part of the white way of life that is not identified with the repression and with the staying in power of the white regime.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=31.0,65.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI see no way by which the professional military and police could have been kept in a black majority ruled Rhodesia. And therefore, while they don't care all that much about Rhodesia, I thought if I could have develop a constructive solution, constructive in my sense, for Rhodesia and Namibia, that this might have provided a bridge into South Africa.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=65.0,93.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nTo the more positive elements that you have correctly identified with respect to South Africa. I think there are three problems. One is the problem, how do you deal best with South Africa? Do you deal best with South Africa by pressure, or do you deal best with South Africa by understanding?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=93.0,114.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow, my experience is extremely limited, being confined to a six-month period and I could easily change my mind. I would of thought we should at least attempt to rule their foundation of their complexities before we resort to pressure, because pressure may turn into a very blunt issue. Now, assuming we solved that tell the truth problem in the sense that I've described.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=114.0,145.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThen there are two major problems at least in South Africa. One is the problem of apartheid and the second is the problem of participation in political power. I would think a wise Western policy would separate those two issues. I think people bends to human dignity is the system of apartheid.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=145.0,168.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIf the caste system is the separate facility, if the civilized labor culture could all be substantially modified for a policy, that in itself would create such a fundamental change in the political reality. That then the question of political power would be automatically addressed in a new environment. I feel that this is the first objective that we should set ourselves.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=168.0,199.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd that is an objective, which I believe, is achievable with an understanding policy towards South Africa. But not when they see, all around themselves, that every concession leads to an escalation of demand, and then to final collapse of the position of those who make the concession. Now, on the question of the sharing of political power, I want to repeat what I said yesterday.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=199.0,228.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThis is probably a question of the political capacity of the West. How do you share political power in multiracial society, and multi-tribal society? I don't think we, in our hearts, have a really good answer to that because of the simple applications of the doctrines of the Parliament of Westminster are not easy, and probably, catastrophic in such a situation.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=228.0,260.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhether a conferral solution in which the sharing of territories is more equitable than the one that is now foreseen under Amistaad arrangement. So that there is a much closer relationship between the sharing of territories and the percentage of the-\n\u003e\u003e [COUGH]\n\u003e\u003e And so that you might get some white-\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=260.0,283.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [COUGH]\n\u003e\u003e States and some black states working together in the confederation. I have not had a chance to study that in any degree of detail. Or whether there's something of value different than conceivable death I haven't thought about. Discussed with [INAUDIBLE] last night whether this isn't something that this institute ought to take a look at.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=283.0,306.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBecause I know men of goodwill who have supported all the opposition causes in South Africa who are now being driven to oppose the Anglo-American policy. Because they think it will lead to a new faction. The thing that I fear, I agree with you all so far on our relations with our republic and South Africa.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=306.0,327.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI am afraid, that if the radical restless begins to dominate, if our policy becomes sort of the greatest in character and adopt lessons from regions of our country in which the conditions were entirely different that we might generate an explosion. Take for example, the quaint discretion of should we cut off investments in South Africa.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=327.0,357.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow, I don't have the answer. There's one South African industrialist whom I know, who has recorded every liberal cause in South Africa, you probably know whom I mean, who is horrified by this idea because he thinks it's guaranteed the beginning of a Civil War in South Africa. With all the consequences which you described.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=357.0,380.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow, maybe there's a collective thing that can be done in that respect. But it is not too soon, but in fact it's rather late, for us to develop some concept of how South Africa may develop. And because, otherwise, I am afraid with Rhodesia I consider very well off, I think the existing solution will collapse within the next few months..\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=380.0,403.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think most of the whites will leave and all the bad consequences or maybe different consequences, I think that has almost some kind of equality about it now. But I have suggested that the group of people address the question of what would be a progressive far sighted program for South Africa that can be implemented fairly rapidly.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=403.0,432.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd yet, avoids that holocaust that is inevitable if it is a tentative result, of pure pressure on either side.\n\u003e\u003e Yes, Mike?\n\u003e\u003e [CROSSTALK] On that very important matter, I'd like to name plus two quick supplementary within that. The first one in defense, Henry Kissinger suggested that might set up a study on this question of South African transition.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=432.0,467.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI hope very much that may be done, and I should like to be able to participate in such a study if that arrives. Secondly, Henry Kissinger said, and I think it's true, Rhodesia is at the moment headed into collapse. Now the Anglo-American proposals may not be great. But nonetheless, if Smith handed over the [INAUDIBLE] so that Britain was responsible for the conditions of, if you like the liquidation or the bankruptcy of the Rhodesian state, I think it could save lives.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=467.0,501.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOtherwise we're headed towards a tripod of civil war. And I think the two sides of [INAUDIBLE] will be fighting one another, and both will be fighting the forces of the Smith regime and Rhodesia. Civilized life in Rhodesia as an extent of existence will be destroyed. I told him I wouldn't-\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=501.0,521.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e I have not-\n\u003e\u003e To handle. But no one else to take over, okay? Because in October. The last thing he wants to remember is that\n\u003e\u003e All right\n\u003e\u003e I did not think the Anglo-American flag was the creative way of settling the problem; but it would be better than the three corner civil rules.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=521.0,553.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e I think of grabbing this last issue from the face of this. Real leadership had broad vision and challenge on one hand and classical action on the other and married the two which the current policy and Marshall plan and Monet and opening of China and so forth represented.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=553.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe're clearly running late, but I want to assure everyone on the following. One will start after the coffee break Retirement and I have on the list after their presentations of So here Neilson and Keith, who were obviously a little late from but wer Later. I suggest you should turn and we now go for a quick coffee break and part of\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=570.0,611.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e It hardly is year and this week\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e To okay. To speak about Africa.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e And I find all I told Dr Kissinger yesterday when I walked to deliver of imposing myself on his company and walking with him But I really enjoyed this presentation a lot and I'm sure all of us have.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=611.0,665.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI thought one or two things but in fact, most of them haven't been said by by Ambassador and particularly by [INAUDIBLE]. But I'd just like to add just one point. That is that, in talking about Africa, I think one understandable error is to forget the people who live there.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=665.0,698.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd none of these [INAUDIBLE] Reviews of the actors themselves. It wasn't anything [INAUDIBLE] exchange one set of colonial masters for another. [INAUDIBLE] hand themselves over to an informal [INAUDIBLE]. I think that there is an unfinished agenda going on. Simply, that it is not going to be possible to have another scramble for Africa, to share out territories and influences as was done in 1884 in Berlin today.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=698.0,731.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThere is nothing, that is out of the question now. And therefore in looking at Angola, Mozambique, and all these, I think that very important dimension to be borne in mind. Right now, today, I think this, the prime ministers of the various African states are meeting in Sudan and they are divided.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=731.0,754.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThey are talking about intervention from outside. They are in fact, arguing about the effectiveness or otherwise of indicting one group of people or the other into Africa. I don't think there is any need for me to go over the ground that's been covered so far over Angola and [INAUDIBLE] but I'd just like to admit there is one crunch I'd like to bring up what I'd consider to be most important.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=754.0,779.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd a problem, and that is South Africa. When it comes down to the crunch, on which side will the white government dominated countries in the world stand? Because that's really unfortunately what has evolved. And there the moral issue comes in, and tied up with all that is the economic, social, political resolve.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=779.0,805.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI would just like to make that point, it seems to me, that if that particular point were not clear, then the mechanics on deciding the most effective way to arrive at the solution Would be the most I think hopeful sign. Like Kissinger, I'm very afraid of what's going to happen if nothing is done to deal with the threatened peoples of apartheid and political discrimination.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=805.0,835.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNot really as an emperor I think Rhodesia is already lost. I think there is the question of their fault.\n\u003e\u003e [COUGH]\n\u003e\u003e River dividing Rhodesia from South Africa. And taking a stand once and for all. This then brings us right into the problem of relationship on a global scale between the third world, the first world, the fourth, fifth and sixth world.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=835.0,860.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think the important point here is, whether human justice and respect for dignity and equality really comes into play, and then if that is so I believe that their intended instrument would have mentioned the United Nations organization, the regional organizations like the organizational community. The various either regional or sub-regional or international global issues will all, I think, pertain.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=860.0,893.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt is not for me to prescribe, during next year what we should do about this. But I believe that in raising the consciousness, in starting this process, it is important you bring into equality of consultation, and therefore of the and the various people's who sport teams are intimately concerned in this exercise.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=893.0,915.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhen that is done I think it can be seen that different problems in Ethiopia, in Somalia, in Sudan, in in Morocco and so on. I believe that the key element Is whether human dignity will really take the center of the stage, and justice, and equality. That I think is the issue.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=915.0,942.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWith that, I'm sure that we can really arrive at I think a better future. And I'm very much in favor of an opportunity for the Aspen Institute to constitute a group that will really look at these problems away from the conflicts and the controversies And will also be very representative and will bring in all the both those leading actors as well as those who do extra.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=942.0,975.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd even those who pull the strings and [INAUDIBLE].\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e [APPLAUSE]\n\u003e\u003e The only comment, I believe, with every figure, that the only comment I would make is, if the choice is going to be put between the black and the white population of Africa. Then it will lead to a very specific debate in this country, because I have an uneasy feeling that the majority of the white population of this country might wind up.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=975.0,1016.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOn the other hand, if one had a program which took into account the [INAUDIBLE] the climate of human dignity of the black populus. That they will not put in terms of black against white, but in terms of a program for the future of Africa. Then I think that it would be relatively easy for the United States to take the right position.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1016.0,1045.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut otherwise, we might get a good fitting as to who can advance the more extreme proposition. And this is why I'm so concerned with finding what I call moderate but which moderate isn't really what I'm after. What I'm after is to avoid a holocaust. And at the end of which, however, the concerns for human dignity of the population would be with respect to what we thought of the program.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1045.0,1074.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd then I'm sure the United States would come out and [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e Could we ask Harlan Stevens and could come and join us up here to? We'll now go on now to the next segment. They said he hadn't [INAUDIBLE].\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e Henry. [INAUDIBLE] yesterday afternoon, the former Secretary of State and a once and future historian.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1074.0,1128.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI was very glad that you mentioned, I'm sure the founding fathers seemed to be about the proposition they could only protect their independence by thoroughly understanding [INAUDIBLE]. I was struck again with the thought that after Washington and up to Jackson, all the people I can find the White House except the secretary of state.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1128.0,1158.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIf you'll grant me John Adams' leadership in the Continental Congress on foreign policy as sort of a moral equivalent of being secretary of state.\n\u003e\u003e After that-\n\u003e\u003e We'll take that proposition.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE] constitution.\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE] there's the constitution for that and I've read it.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1158.0,1187.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e I think this is in front of that [INAUDIBLE].\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Well, at a luncheon in Washington sometime that when Henry was still secretary of state, the president [INAUDIBLE]. And he got up at the end of the and said, now Mr. President, talking to President I have some problems.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1187.0,1214.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRespective of being president of the United States, there's a article that you must be native born. Now I've been trying to get around this for a long time and I think I have a solution. And he said, occurs to me that if Bavaria became the 51st state of the Union-\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1214.0,1234.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e I should say that, many of you probably know, there is a lightning rod statesman or a politician of Bavaria named. And if I can say so in undiplomatic terms, I think shared with most Germans all across the [INAUDIBLE] the hell to get rid of these in some way.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1234.0,1253.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo Henry then stands up, Bavaria become the 51st state in the union? This would solve my problem, Henry. And then he put his hand on President shoulder. And he said, by the way, I think it might solve a few of yours.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Now I wanna start this line of thinking.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1253.0,1277.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e I'm working on it today, Carl.\n\u003e\u003e But since Jackson, there have only been two secretaries of state that got to be president. Martin Van Buren and James Buchanan, and it's a little hard to remember what contribution they made.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Nowadays for us, all presidents find foreign relations fascinating but all of them also seem to have to learn on the job.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1277.0,1311.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd every new administration has, like Dr. Kissinger said, there's a lot to learn about how things really are until it kinda settles in. In one sense, each new president seems to have to have his Bay of Pigs as a learning experience. Kennedy was fortunate in that he got one big learning experience over rather early, April of his first year.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1311.0,1339.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI seem to have to have the Bay of Pigs learning experience [INAUDIBLE]. But the problem seems to me for the American government these days is, not only that things get more complicated all the time or only that the nations get more interdependent all the time. But even more, that the subjects get more interdependent all the time.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1339.0,1371.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI've come to believe that the one thing that's at least as bad as doing bad things on purpose. And that's doing good things and then not relating to each other. Whatever we say at various times about whether subjects are linked or not and sort of how do a dance between the Soviet Union and the United States when we [INAUDIBLE] something [INAUDIBLE].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1371.0,1400.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe fact is that most of [INAUDIBLE] are inherent. The weather in Ukraine really is relative to the price of bread in the supermarket. And all the imports really are related to the balance of payments [INAUDIBLE] and global inflation. And Africa really is related to too, and human rights really is related to everything else.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1400.0,1427.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd above all, as I'll come back to in a minute, the so-called North-South issues in the world are closely related to the East-West relations. It's certainly right that the balance of power is still central. It's been established and broken down enumerable times since Kane and Abel, as we heard yesterday-\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1427.0,1456.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Excuse me, I just learned just now that George McGee has a 1 o'clock plane and I was wondering if he has one quick comment and I was wondering if you wouldn't mind\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE]\nI apologize.\n\u003e\u003e I apologize, [INAUDIBLE] long, although, [INAUDIBLE]. Comment, and I hope they don't interfere too much with it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1456.0,1474.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e Very good. There's something that I just wanted to say, after listening to\n\u003e\u003e The speech that we've heard from Henry Kissinger. And I wanted to tell him how interested I was in it, and how much I learned from it as usual, given his customary wit and coherence.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1474.0,1499.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nHe, of course, enunciated a concept. And it's very important that we have a concept. [INAUDIBLE] Otherwise, you can't devise a policy. Which, in a sense, is a strategy for dealing with your problems. [INAUDIBLE] Ambassador I think, questioned a little, this concept of the balance of power as being your basic approach and I would like to put it in another way.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1499.0,1522.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nPerhaps, whenever you. Deal with the same subject.]. You'll merely find different words for the same thing. But I would like to try to describe it in terms of an era in which we have a balance of constraint rather than a balance of power. I think all of us are just getting into this.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1522.0,1541.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut as defense to it, I know that there's no balance. And once you have the elements of the balance in juxtaposition. This can apply to military problems. But we can take all of the different types of power in the world. There have not been physical juxtaposition. And so some other state of equilibrium must exist other than in mere balance of power I think, really, we're getting into the era which Colin has best described.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1541.0,1569.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd he may use these words again. In which no one is in charge. The Soviets have lost their preeminent power in the communist party. Largely because the Chinese have made havoc with it. The Soviets have had economic failures which have reduced their power. You told us that our relative economic power going through 75 to 25 percent.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1569.0,1589.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe know from what our strong tells us that we have many constraints in our ability to act like a [INAUDIBLE], by labor, by lack of resources, by apathy on the part of our people. Most of Soviets [INAUDIBLE] and ourselves in a sense or like the giants of Gulliver's Travels, who in their sleep were bound by the pygmies, and we were bound by cords of our own making.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1589.0,1613.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo we should not be too disappointed that this in fact has happened. There is a strategic stand-off in the world. There's not gonna be a world war, I don't think. And this is one of our main contributions. But as a result, military power in a lesser rebel becomes more important and we ourselves have assured the diffusion of this power by selling $8 billion worth a year.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1613.0,1636.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe Shah himself can start a very respectful war if he chose to. And the general diffusion of power, both military, economic, and model power, because we no longer have the monopoly. Probably on moral power if we ever did, as well a very confused world. In this type of world you basically cope with problems.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1636.0,1655.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nYou push and pull. You keep them in manageable proportions. You need to lean on the Soviets. Are gonna come out with clear lines of action, where we can act as we did in the post-war to impose the policy on the world and this probably will be such a bad thing.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1655.0,1672.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIf we can find the strength with the power and we do have no [INAUDIBLE] to strength while we retain our power until they emerge. If we can find a way to [INAUDIBLE] of strengths that power, I think we'll probably be a much more interesting world and perhaps even a safer world.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1672.0,1689.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd we may reach an era when no one really has to be in power and then we can all come up to Aspen and talk.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n[APPLAUSE]\n\u003e\u003e It turns out that [INAUDIBLE] was some [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e Extraordinarily well, George, with what I was going to say any way.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1689.0,1715.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt may be late in this discussion to expand the canvas on which we're sketching even more broadly, but I'd like to play for a moment with this notion of the balance of power.\n\u003e\u003e It's true as George just said. Something that's very important has happened. The nuclear confrontation between the Soviet Union and the United States has in some sense put a lid on the use of military power for the first time mankind's history.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1715.0,1751.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFor the first time, you don't fight as hard as you can. You can't afford to fight as hard as you can and you have to find other ways of competing. In this sense, becomes the continuation of tension by other means, not relaxation, of course, but a different kind of tension, and a much more diffuse and broader one with a lot more accuracy.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1751.0,1778.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOne of the things that happened, as George said, is the diffusion of military power itself the behavior proves an assault is [NOISE]. And the viper probably by that time considerably less than a million dollars and a piece of hardware with which you could hit a large silhouette on the horizon.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1778.0,1805.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd the old kind of, [INAUDIBLE]\nthe power of production, industrial, food production, perhaps our greatest single form of power is the success of our agriculture. The power of poverty, which is the Power of the situation in other countries working on a compassion guilt and therefore the politics of the.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1805.0,1862.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd the power of Marlon's example which can be done clumsily or well but is still Very important piece of the new balance of power. If you add to these different kinds of power all of which have to be somehow in the balance and it's a much more complex balance.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1862.0,1885.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnother factor it get's even more difficult, difficult to calculate. The other factor is the subtraction of so much power from national government under a credit to the subtraction of power inside the U.S. government. By the reassertion of separation of power, what might be called a post [INAUDIBLE] Gulf resolution in Europe.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1885.0,1921.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo there's the [INAUDIBLE] of power of national governments to local communities inside. Not only are they familiar at Scotland and Quebec and other similar issues, but even with what goes on in our country in communities trying more and more to take control of their own destiny [INAUDIBLE] even Aspen, Colorado.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1921.0,1946.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nDoes the leakage of power to other nations, not just because the military weapons are so much more infused. But people are inclined to watch the Japanese Yen at least as closely they watch the dollar these days. Or Saudi decisions on how much oil to pump. Or the views of several dozen countries, which are now succeeding and [INAUDIBLE] any sea bed mining agreement.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1946.0,1984.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOr the views of a great many countries who have to assemble next year in a meeting to which Glenn Robinson, of the estimates that he will be the US delegate, to allocate the frequencies for radio and electronic purposes. There's a leakage of power out of national governments into transnational enterprise.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=1984.0,2015.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nA powerful variety, which are not nearly as powerful as both **** Barnett and George Ball, with different ideologies thought they were going to be. But still have the degree of efficiency or flexibility of enterprise that has created a leak from what used to be regarded as national government functions.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2015.0,2042.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I would say that even some leakage of power Into nonprofit multinational corporations, in which category I will include the assets to. Rather more of a policy planning, on longer raised issues is now done outside governments. Not only in the United States but increasingly in Europe and Japan and elsewhere.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2042.0,2067.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd finally the leakage of power to international bodies consequent on the presence in the world. More and more problems can't possibly be handled by individual national action. In such fields as weather and climate, communications, trying to pool the pollution of the atmosphere and the oceans. Protection of the ozone layer, the CO2 issue, management of ocean resources, the human uses of outer space And more broadly issues such as [INAUDIBLE] population growth, global natural cycles, and subjects of peace, war and energy.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2067.0,2117.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd most importantly of all, the issue of human needs and the eradication of power. Which has become as Carl Williams said yesterday and others have referred to, not only a need but increasingly a right. So to analyze this new kind of balance of power, it seems to me that we need to be clear as to what makes a difference.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2117.0,2141.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd here I think the emphasis on the power of politics among the larger countries does tend, has tended, and probably will tend in the future, to get in the way of seeing the extent to which what I've been calling the global fairness revolution or the north-south relationship. Is driving both the traditional east-west relationship and the traditional transatlantic and transpacific alliance relationships.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2141.0,2184.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt seems hard to almost remember that we use to have our confrontations with the Soviet Union in Berlin. And now, it's usually taking place in places like Angola and Ethiopia. Probably the most important wedge in the Western and Pacific Alliance systems is the wedge that has driven them by the uncertainty about Middle Eastern oil.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2184.0,2215.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd so on, all kinds of examples of where the developments in the third world and countries that are not powerful in themselves, in traditional terms, are affecting the power relationships on a global basis. In this sense, it seems to me that it would be useful to add at least a couple of targets to the very broad agenda that Henry Kissinger presented yesterday afternoon.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2215.0,2252.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOne is that it doesn't seem that it really would be possible, over about a generation, to eradicate the worst aspects of poverty worldwide. Eradicate what the World Bank calls absolute poverty. People refer to this as a Marshall Plan, and I'm not sure if the analogy is good enough to stay with.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2252.0,2279.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe main problem is not the balance of payments problem, the Marshall Plan in the first instance was named that. The main problem is the internal structures of unfairness. But in making an analogy in that very creative movement which the US proved to the Europeans the task of divvying up the aide.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2279.0,2299.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd they had hearings among each other and criticized each others internal policies. Maybe some nourishment in that idea for working toward a situation in which very sizable amounts of new resources could be put into the developing world. But only in those parts of the developing world where there could be some sense that a strategy of meeting human needs is really entrenched.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2299.0,2334.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd that's not just because that's morally the right thing to do. It's also because we won't get the support in the north of the world for dealing fairly with the south, unless there is the sense that [INAUDIBLE]. So that's one kind of [INAUDIBLE] that I would ask of Henry's agenda.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2334.0,2360.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe other is, A much more creative attack on the problem of the development of international of our structures. That wasn't in the title, I think, but [INAUDIBLE] international structure, and that we've seen any time since the later '40's. I don't mean a new architectural design, using a word that is a favorite word of one of Dr Kissinger's successors.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2360.0,2395.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut I mean the kinds of relationships and structures that are appropriate to a world where nobody's in charge. A world where Where pluralism is mandatory. Here I think we'll find the UN, in particular, a useful umbrella for the consortium of concern. If we stop thinking that everything has to be done by everybody, which in a way, is not necessarily the trouble with the formal structure of the UN and the charter, not a trouble with the first five pages of the charter.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2395.0,2437.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt's the trouble with the 50 pages of procedure that follow. Within the spirit of the charter, and I think Kennedy, within the design of the charter, if it would [INAUDIBLE].\nMuch of the real functional cooperation, appropriately, in a world player power [INAUDIBLE] in the other kinds of power government [INAUDIBLE] systems, much of the that cooperation can be done on a non-governmental basis.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2437.0,2474.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nReference has been made by professor [INAUDIBLE]. She is not very effective combining it with [INAUDIBLE]. There is the hierarchy of some of the most effective forms of international global cooperation. So both in the development of functional cooperation and in trying to develop This moral basis for vision that was referred to earlier this morning, I think there may be growing and the normal [INAUDIBLE] important role for the non-governmental or para-governmental kind of organization to which [INAUDIBLE] are attached.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2474.0,2528.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe're getting some of the dreams leading to action. Maybe that should be the new slogan. I think there's some requirements and with this I'll finish. I think that it's important for this kind of family To limit the amount of time and effort it uses in the second guessing the tactical problems which governors are already deeply involved.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2528.0,2565.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd they're trying to get out ahead of government. In other words the work ahead of time on problems that are important but not yet urgent or urgent enough for whoever mentioned. The shape loose from the conceptual confines or the disciplinary lines that women which Current tactics tend to be.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2565.0,2593.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe think card and being able to speak freely about alternative futures and what they imply for public policy today which is, again, hard to do even in the policy planning space of the government which are drawn into current tactics, most of the time. To generate discussion among people who might otherwise not be talking to each other.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2593.0,2618.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nCertainly hard to do around here. An organized dialogue in one word, monologue, across frontiers on issues that aren't yet right for more official negotiations. Those really need to be the kinds of things that we can do in this kind of environment and where the creative theoretical power of Henry Kissinger's mind may well find a kind of destiny that's important in its own way, as the enormously important contribution he's already made as a political executive and a statesman.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2618.0,2668.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI would only suggest, Henry, one test for the kinds of activities in which you and I and others will be engaged. After you finish your book. And that is are we working on issues that are still too vague, too big, too interdisciplinary, or too futuristic for governments that are too busy, too crisis ridden?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2668.0,2696.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nToo crisis ridden and too politically careful for time. If we are [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n[APPLAUSE]\n\u003e\u003e I'd like to ask how do you make a statement and then the first person we're gonna have to adjourn for lunch before long. We will continue the afternoon session with a continuation of this session going on in the Middle East and then at the end, a session on governance where a lot of the issues exactly.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2696.0,2738.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLet's put this [INAUDIBLE] both the institute and confirmed now for about eight or nine years. Five of which caused with a consortium of past, present, and future leaders in this area. Universities of Harvard, MIT, Cornell, and Stanford putting their work together. So [INAUDIBLE]-\n\u003e\u003e Really having the resources [INAUDIBLE]-\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2738.0,2769.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE]\nBut he has to leave in about ten minutes. So maybe we should put it off until [CROSSTALK]\n\u003e\u003e Why don't we do that the first thing in the afternoon and then if I may [CROSSTALK]?\n\u003e\u003e There are some difficult questions I don't think we could answer them in time.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2769.0,2789.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e We'll do that as the first order of business after lunch. I would then like to spend just a few minutes, Mr. Chairman, if you agree, [INAUDIBLE].\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE] Well, I just take one minute to say this, I hope you will all not succumb to the narcotic of Aspen.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2789.0,2826.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAll these things are just so charming. In fact, the company conveniently forgets that almost as many people were killed in Stalin's purge as were killed in World War II. And the delivery was suppressed and blocked in Czechoslovakia, Poland, Hungary, etc. And we forget what we did in Santa Domingo and many other places.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2826.0,2853.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd we also forget the starving millions who Mr. Williams invoked in terms of a dream. But if you get awful mad at us and come storming out of their hovels and overwhelm all of our civilized values for a long time. So all I beg of you is to remember that we as a people who are such leaders and have so many resources have sacrificed mighty little.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2853.0,2880.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd that we have to sacrifice a lot more and show a lot of discipline. In order to lead this wold into those paths of civility and discussion, characterized by these very distinguished gentlemen led by Henry, and Doctor Carlton, Mr Williams, and all the others. So I hope, Carlton, that what you do is going to have bite and what you do is going to be action oriented.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2880.0,2907.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd what you do is going to incite people, to go out and fight, and run for office, and create tensions. And contend for things, and not assume that sweet reason will prevail just because it's reason.\n\u003e\u003e Thank you Mr. Chairman.\n\u003e\u003e Thank you, your welcome.\n\u003e\u003e [APPLAUSE]\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE]\nJack\n\u003e\u003e Well I'll try to be brief because I know we are pressed for time, but it seems to me just trying to tie in the presentation the Henry Kissinger made with\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2907.0,2944.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Shannon [INAUDIBLE] who did a very good presentation yesterday. You may be anticipating a little bit about of what you're going to be talking about later in the afternoon. One of the key issues that has been raised is, the whole problem of the slow down in economic growth in the industrial democracy, particularly, since the oil crisis of 1973.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2944.0,2965.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd the problem that this has created in terms of unemployment and I suppose as an educator, the big concern to me is the great problem with youth unemployment. As well as pressures for protectionism, and a whole variety of other problems that Henry Kissinger alluded to in his remarks.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2965.0,2988.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOne of the causes of these problems that has been surfaced here has been, automation and the increasing desire for productivity, and the fact that workers are being replaced by machines. And I'd like to suggest another cause and in fact ask Henry Kissinger if he would reflect on this for a moment, and that is the enormous build up in the OPEC surplus, and the implications that this has for future economic growth.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=2988.0,3021.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt seems to me that one of the real reasons behind the economic slow down is not so much the rapid rise and the price of oil. Because I think the world has been reasonably well able to accommodate to that. But it's been the accumulation of the large OPEC surplus in the hands of Saudi Arabia and some of the other Arab countries as well.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=3021.0,3052.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd the prospect that this surplus is joined to continue to grow larger, that is made it very difficult for the world economy to get moving in if you will. And it seems to me that one of the issues we have to fake an address, is how we take this surplus, and somehow not just recycle it, because we are recycling it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=3052.0,3077.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt is being invested today in short term US government securities, and government securities of other governments as well. But how do we get this back into productive investments? Just to throw out a few thoughts, it could come back into the development of the indigenous energy resources of the LDC.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=3077.0,3099.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSomething that Senator Javits and I talked about at breakfast this morning and something I know that Harlan is quite concerned and what? It could go back into productive investments in some of the industrialized economies. Certainly there are opportunities for productive investments in this country and other countries as well, but there do remain a number of barriers to the reinvestment of these funds.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=3099.0,3126.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIn Japan for example it's very difficult for tariff funds to be recycled into major investment projects. I would think that if there was going to be any issue that was on the agenda for this year's summit meeting or. Some meeting in subsequent years but this would be one of the critical issues that are, the Chief Executive of our country should be concerned with.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=3126.0,3156.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBecause unless these funds get recycled, unless the industrial democracies can somehow step up their rate of growth, I think it's going to have implications for growth in the LDCs. For Political unrest that might result not only in the LDP but in some of the semi-industrial countries surrounding the Mediterranean as well.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=3156.0,3179.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd so it would seem to me that this is an issue that has to be addressed by political leaders. And it certainly has implications for the estimate to do the Mideast project for the work that Dan is doing, and his concern about youth unemployment, not only in this country, but abroad.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=3179.0,3203.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd it's certainly something that our energy committee in the Aspen Institute is going to be concerning yourself with, because it seems to me that it's behind a lot of the problem that the world is facing today.\n\u003e\u003e I can do really [INAUDIBLE] to be with you. I think the major deflationary impact on the world it's having today Derived from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the Emirates.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525#t=3203.0,3236.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73525/transcript/8375/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nTheir accumulated surpluses doesn't derive from countries like Iran that extend their oil revenues for productive privileges, and this creates. In addition to the topic which you had mentioned, a number of potential dangers. 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Turn up in my time. [INAUDIBLE].\n[INAUDIBLE].\nIt might not be in the morning or the afternoon. [INAUDIBLE].\nBut meanwhile if any of you have any ideas [INAUDIBLE] a better format if you let us know.\n\u003e\u003e Considering the difficulty [INAUDIBLE] [FOREIGN]\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE]\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=3.0,64.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e [CROSSTALK]\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e Yeah, yeah.\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e Yeah,\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e Well, he might [INAUDIBLE]. 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More than four years are setting a kind of juris record, which creates a certain boredom and only with some lack of effort one can bring the topic up for another go.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=109.0,142.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAlong with this repeated expectation, but on delivery, it is the erosion of the whole proposition that it is occurring, because in a sense. Whatever one view has of. [INAUDIBLE] strategic weapons agreement that stalled, and some point that the consequences of the agreement have some visible impact. And when the rate at which they are negotiated slows down beyond that point, which technological innovation has allowed forces to grow, then there is no [INAUDIBLE] that [INAUDIBLE] ratify.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=142.0,184.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIn other words, there is a critical rate at which our patrol has to be negotiated if it is to have an effect. Now, the present forces in the SALT negotiations were delayed six weeks, because of the Soviet Slovakia. And the change to the other in 1972. The Allied assault in February 1974.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=184.0,214.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd then the country advances, since that time over the announcements that it was. Now to get this background, and Henry's deep involvement in both SALT 1 and SALT 2, that I thought we should ask him several specific questions. Which are in no sense embarrassing expectation. 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[INAUDIBLE].\nWe find something that [INAUDIBLE].\nSo that was my first question, should sort of negotiations be a part of the diplomatic repertoire of [INAUDIBLE]?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=257.0,317.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe second question is related to this, but more abroad, and it really goes to the heart of what I think Kissinger achieved. I think different people, will say when they draw up the ledger of the goods and the bads of his tenure in office will report SALT I and the near completion of SALT II were on the.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=317.0,342.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd it seems to me remarkable [COUGH] in retrospect that the achievement of SALT 1 and the near achievement of SALT 2, was made possible by his section two, is involved in the weapons with facilities in defending itself. And after that agreement, representative grouping of improved relationships and the capping of.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=342.0,381.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo they, a period of rising expectations in the relationship. Now, [INAUDIBLE] not small, partly because that kind of relationship deteriorated, and it has deteriorated further in the year and a half of the new administration. But the question is, can one and dependent and they should let soft negotiation and agreement, that are sufficiently vital to the financial fully cost of the expected to be negotiated and agreed upon independent into pass.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=381.0,422.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe high standards Soviet Union wondered. They've completed during the responding And therefore, the Soviets [UNKNOWN.] So we have to ask yourselves. If we hang on to expect SALT 2 to the agreed upon verified in the present situation. And then the final question is that. To find a conception, according the the relationship live at this point in history.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=422.0,470.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt has been going downhill, just the same yesterday, as it was about late 1974. And it seems to be. Invariant with respect to administration, are we witnessing the playing out of a play? The curtain having opened and moved along for sometime trapped until the comparable to the Cuban missile crisis or something even more severe brings about a change of attitude.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=470.0,501.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOr can one perceive a set of strategies which might reverse this downward trend, without necessitating a shock of that magnitude? So those are my three questions.\n\u003e\u003e Yep, he thought, we binded at, probbably a good chance of debating about the relationship and get to a specific question. I'd like to correct that one point that was made at the end of this morning session, which said that my view is the balance of power, is the only way to the foreign policy.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=501.0,546.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think that is incorrect, I think without balance of power you can't have a foreign policy. But I think that balance of power is enough for the foreign policy. You're getting yourself into forward of unmanageable proportion and I wanna make that point, because it is a particular relevance to the nuclear question.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=546.0,569.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe must have a balance of power in the world, in the overall sense and more importantly in the regional sense. Because one of the attributes of the modern period, which is unique is that there is no necessary relationship between the overall balance of power and regional balances of power.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=569.0,597.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt used to be that [INAUDIBLE] from a genius, it no longer is. IYou could have an equivalent of strategic forces however we determine that and beneath that you could have many regional imbalances, which become significant, precisely because there is parity in strategic forces. The second problem you have is how you determine the nature of equivalence in strategic forces, when both sides have followed different design criteria.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=597.0,627.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nA different objective is extraordinarily difficult to say and have led to endless debates about the nature of parity and the nature of superiority, in which I do not wish to enter now. The third problem is, that the problem of peace is more crucial in our period then it could never have been in any previous period there is.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=627.0,652.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI began saying yesterday you had never have peace without the balance of power. But it is also true, you have never had a permanent peace with the balance of power. And at some point, either there was an objective change of the balance of power, which can resemble to that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=652.0,670.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOr there was a misapprehension as to what a balance of power could be. We had been obsessed with the lessons of World War II, which broke out because one side of what it show us as military superiority. But it is worthwhile to remember that there was also World War I in which a war broke out, despite the fact that I was by any rational calculation.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=670.0,696.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThere was military candidates at that period, so a continuation, an endless continuation of tensions with the other super powers events, in my view, an unacceptable risk of a type of war. Which will change the nature of our society so fundamentally that whether it is tolerable or intolerable, a difference is really not a question of how to address.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=696.0,729.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nEurope never fully recovered from World War I and I do not think the societies we know today will be the societies that emerged out of a general nuclear exchange, if indeed, any societies emerged. And for this, we remember on the other hand of this line of reasoning is that if truth becomes the only object, it can become both a motivation for settlement, but also a tool of blackmail.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=729.0,763.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo how do you strike the balance between peace and justice, so that peace the desire for peace does not lead to unilateral surrender? This is the paramount problem of the present period, which must find an expression in some form of mutual arrangement. So, the importance of all this, is it addresses some principle of restraint in the area most dangerous to the survival of the planet.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=763.0,801.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd therefore, it has a special status apart from the ups and downs, in my view, on the ups, of the ups and downs, of day-to-day foreign policy. On the other, or at the same time, I have always believed in the concept of linkage. Unfortunately, the concept of linkage was debated in the United States after they [COUGH] probably the choice of the Nixon administration.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=801.0,834.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd therefore, he immediately got all of the thoughtful people against it. The fundamental ways of look at linkage is not as a policy, but as a reality that there is a connection between events that you cannot simply define a way by an act of will. I would not lightly link those to what you call the ups and downs of numeral takes on politics.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=834.0,867.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOn the other hand, if tomorrow there's [COUGH] a form of allegiance well then Soviet forces appear and American military maneuvers take place, I would say it would be grotesque to pursue the SALT agreement under conditions of incipient military hostility. SALT must be not become a way by which the conflict is regulated.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=867.0,893.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSALT must be, by which can [INAUDIBLE] SALT must make a contribution to the solution of proper [INAUDIBLE] And my answer to your third question is, that as a general rule, I would not link SALT to the normal intention of superpowers. But there is a limit beyond which one cannot carry this principle, which is difficult to define in your [INAUDIBLE].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=893.0,922.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut which was clearly reached in the summer of 1968, where two could afford a summit meeting then between President Johnson and Prime Minister Kosygin shortly after the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia, would have run counter to any principle of conduct for which we could stand. Now on the case, I have warned for years against making Soviet domestic practices [INAUDIBLE] formal objective of American foreign policy.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=922.0,962.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think it gets us into the dating objective, which are beyond our capacity to realize and therefore creates temptations to demonstrate our impotence. And I believe we should make it an objective of American policy. But at least in my experience, leave a more successful in a alleviating the fate of people that quite approaches, that could not say a form of blame.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=962.0,997.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd it does not claim that it was a legitimate objective of our foreign policy to intervene in the judicial processes of another sovereign country. Having said this, I must however say that they could choose the day of two days before the beginning of Salt negotiations. After the president, in my view, unwisely has stated his prestige, is a needless [INAUDIBLE].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=997.0,1029.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd what we ought to ask ourselves is should we retaliate now by stopping SALT negotiations, which we would then be forced to resume anyway. And maybe go even more into it. But how it could come to pass? Since I do not believe the Soviets are irrational. How it could happened if there were accumulation of challenges following the period of relative tranquility, what can be done to restore some restraint and predictability to our relationship?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1029.0,1071.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBecause if this keeps up, [INAUDIBLE] somebody say that it was announced today that five Soviet warships have been sent to aid tonight. And I can't confirm this but if that is true, it would be another reflection of this kind of escalating challenges that not be containable even by [INAUDIBLE] agreement.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1071.0,1098.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSo to sum it up I would think that SALT is in a category by itself. It should however be, but linkage is also there as a reality. We most show greater tolerance with respect to SALT negotiations than to any other negotiation that I can think of. At some point agree, where they can not be the same, then we must take care that they do not become a sort of a tranquilizer that makes unrestrained behavior [INAUDIBLE].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1098.0,1146.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhich gets me however, to yet another point. I think when we examine ourselves we will have to say that to the extent of our that we have a certain responsibility to the present state of affairs. It's hardly due to the frivolity with which foreign policies tends to be discussed in the United States, in which any idea is put forward simply because it is plausible, in which you think you can combine the advantages of every conceivable course of action.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1146.0,1184.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think it was a tragedy that we did not follow the agreement within six months of the final agreement, because if at the history of nearly four years of negotiation since then has improved, note the vast improvement warfare department. The present agreement is not significantly better than what we had at.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1184.0,1208.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd what we have is January 1976 or I wouldn't argue this point. It isn't the fundamental point is that we came out of a coalition of conservatives and liberals, who for up a variety of motives, suddenly assaulted something that was a rather fragile creation to begin with. And if it not for [INAUDIBLE], then I think we will be doomed to go through the whole process again, and at the end of which [INAUDIBLE] or we'll be back in 1974.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1208.0,1264.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNeither side is gonna be able to defeat the other. The only question is, can one side create such an impression of weakness, that the other side believes it can [INAUDIBLE]. With all my doubts about some of the maneuvers of this administration, if it gets pushed too far, we'll have another of unforeseeable dimensions, after which we will have to start the slow process of getting more or less than 1974.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1264.0,1297.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAgain, unless, somebody bluffs beyond the limit, then we have a nuclear war, which would also happen. But, it merely calls to the, what we really have a national need to get, I kept saying this when I was in office, I say it now, we must get some sort of bipartisan consensus from the main lines of our foreign policy, including the problem that you raised.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1297.0,1322.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOr we are going to be jeopardizing our future, in fact jeopardizing a particular foreign policy. It is possible to get this new agreement ratified. And I have to tell you candidly it could not have been negotiated in a good way. A [COUGH] working agreement what it had [INAUDIBLE] to do with [INAUDIBLE].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1322.0,1355.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOf all the areas that I concede, the one that should not have been made an issue of demonstrating the intellectual and moral superiority of the new administration, just seems to be the classic one. I believe that the new administration could have had whatever we negotiated, plus 10 or 20% due to the fact it was a new administration, and therefore there was an incentive to do so.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1355.0,1381.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nInstead, the whole thing was scrapped. Having being scrapped, it was predictably rejected. It led them to a then we collapse the position immediately and we have to forfeit. And the whole thing got into a situation where now for political reasons it's going to become very difficult. In April 1977 no senior Republican could have opposed an agreement within the range of where we were in January '76.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1381.0,1417.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBy the time this agreement is now finished, every leading Republican will have to think of the Presidential campaign of 1980. And every potential candidate, especially those who supported the Panama Canal, are going to have to worry about where they will be if they have to [INAUDIBLE] And so this is an unfortunate political reality.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1417.0,1443.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI hope that we politically accept that the administration will not claim this as a great victory for itself, and that this will lead to a discussion about the fundamentals of our national interests, so that It doesn't turn in to a big battle. Right now, I do not see where the votes are gonna come from, quite frankly.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1443.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOn the other hand, I would hope that the agreement is of sufficient quality, and that serious people on both sides of the argument do know what's happening or we all cannot do very well and come And when they understand but at the same time it requires the strength of your political concept, I don't, certainly can't be ratified if we have a series of trials and we cannot get the over the next year.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1470.0,1507.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nConception of the, I think, the conception of the whole. Well, I explained it in part yesterday. [COUGH] My conception of the relationship is that we are geologically geopolitically competitive through the And in respect to the responsibility to try to maintain the many of the world. With the great dangers that one, that is in human in the publicist of pseudo-power which is that one something gets launched it can have consequences that are not politically.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1507.0,1569.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI do not know what the intention was behind the substantial Soviet rearmament program that started in the late 60s. It could well have been to avoid ever again being in the situation of the Cuban missile crisis. It could well be due to the fact that the military a powerful bureaucratic component and therefore can act and reply in in every other dispute unrelated to it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1569.0,1595.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think it is unlikely that there is a master plan in the abstract of world domination and yet the fact exists that it is imperatively for power to develop which produces a matrimonial at the end. I don't know if I said it yesterday, that I doubt it if has a big plan to become the dominant country the fact that goes And wind up being the free country in power and the apartheid.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1595.0,1630.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe second problem is that as superpower Russian they have to analyze each other, they have of rationality to the other side, bu they should know it's non existent on their side.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Acting as if they maybe quite incoherent, or relatively more incoherent than they appear when they get analyzed.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1630.0,1656.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd then, if you throw unpredictable practices in to the equation, you might create a very dangerous situation, that is not in fact planned. I hope that something dramatic is done very soon to reverse this process of gradual escalation, especially, I must say and I have criticized ourselves seriously for what we did in '74.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1656.0,1685.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI'm must say what the Soviets have done in the last two years is getting to be intriguingly beyond the balance of what will be a tolerable coexistence. And if an end isn't put to it soon, I would foresee a very bad crisis and I would be happier if solved in into a conceptionally broader relationships rather than And in that sense, I believe in mendage, but I think has required, I would not drop it either.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1685.0,1730.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e And I think there's a, an inextricable requirement in that direction, too, in the sense that if we do agree to do SALT II, then SALT II can address\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e And I think people make fun of the principles and choices that were agreed to 1972. And, of course, many of them have been growing.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1730.0,1768.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut there is a certain advantage in having some principles to which you can appeal, and which leaders can invoke towards their own more intransment of elements. And I would hope that if should lead to a successful conclusion that that we make to get back to, at least, to the articulation of some code of conduct.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1768.0,1795.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBecause otherwise, the temptations are going to be too overwhelming and there is confrontation to bear.\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE] statement, we move on now to Mike [INAUDIBLE]\n\u003e\u003e Henry in his charming-\n\u003e\u003e Henry and his charm is typically\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e So that take up a essential question as far as intimidation goes was gonna confess to the world I have been a great supporter of his in certain aspects of his secretaryship in which\n\u003e\u003e But there's a couple of things that are said by Henry Kissinger, in which I find variance in my beliefs, and I'll call upon some authorities to back that up.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1795.0,1851.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I think, he may have said that dramatized in an off-the-cuff fashion. He states, not with disrespect to human rights, and it's interesting to notice his focus on that.\n\u003e\u003e We have a question at the end that [INAUDIBLE] making.\n\u003e\u003e As I heard the statement yesterday, and I don't want to do that, we should not have started on the visible route of declaring human rights.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1851.0,1886.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBecause one, we could not forcibly bring it about. And there's no question at all about that. You can't bring about in a nice The best you can do is pressure, and I think we've done that to some degree, but sometimes not so successful. I would say we haven't done anything wrong in this regard, but it hasn't been done as critically as it has been done.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1886.0,1911.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nA new and inexperienced administration. But I would, as one person, would think that the best role of the chief executive of the greatest power on Earth To be the cleric of moral goals. And that's attempted, and I want to know, back that up with authority, that they agree with me.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1911.0,1936.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOver the course of a year, I traveled to South America, [INAUDIBLE] South America. He applied this, and assumed this was the most important thing that Carter has done. And then I would add the voice of. And then I would also add the voice of secretary of state Kissinger's in the Santiago address.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1936.0,1961.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe agree very strongly with that. That in very end welcome into situation right here. I don't know. But it's kind of effect and it does the some manifested to stand out and we think we can't wait for people who have virtue to call for virtue, otherwise we'll never have anybody call for virtue.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1961.0,1990.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nCuz I think it's very important that our leader provide a moral tone until the Senate won't go along with it, or our Secretary of State provide a moral tone, and that has been the case under Henry Kissinger, and now Jimmy Carter is following in your footsteps. So I.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=1990.0,2016.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Bad light, when truthfully, you should sit in a better light. Let me add that when we move into the area of the targeting of the moral right, I agree whole heartedly, and I'll prove it by an admission here, that it's very difficult to get inside of the domestic issues of a nation.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2016.0,2042.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nParticularly so that you [INAUDIBLE]. I might add, it's an amendment, though. I think trials going forward today in the Soviet Union are product not of our present policy, but [INAUDIBLE] are product of your policy, and I applaud that, because I think [INAUDIBLE] had the effect of developing fissures with in the foundation of communist society.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2042.0,2067.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd now they are trying to plaster those over. It won't work, because the door was opened once. And I agree with you, I wish we could go back to a slow incursion. To economic devices, in to the domestic affairs of the Soviet Union. Tragically, the Senate, and the House, recall testified on the trade bill.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2067.0,2093.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd that was the turning point, as you indicated yesterday. Of the with respect to. And fortunately, the administration at the time did not have the force to backup your play in that regard. And it was a great era in Congress, I don't think we need to go in to why, I think you know that as well as I do.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2093.0,2116.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e But moving on to Africa, where I had a minor role, and was in the same room as. The bench speaking that you had with a group of senators in Scott's office. I did not hear Senator comments. I was present in the room. It was one of the spear carriers with Clarke in the [INAUDIBLE], and was very [INAUDIBLE] by you in opposition to the Secretary of State.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2116.0,2144.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nIt certainly didn't diminish my affection for him at all. But I felt that the will prevail. I don't know of any options that were there. And I think the [INAUDIBLE], you wanted to plead with the Senate [INAUDIBLE] law to be strict, be exercised with policy by the administration in Angola.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2144.0,2165.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe exchange went, you stated your case. I even think that you, at the same time, added a certain or accused us of a certain of do gooders. I don't know if anybody defended them, but I'll defend them now. Cuz most elected officials who've been through one or more elections are very well knowledgable about balances of power, and witnesses\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2165.0,2186.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e By the use of force and so I don't think that we're prepared to abdicate our role in that regard. But with respect to Angola at the time that you were pleading for the ability to do something. We were opposed to what you wanted to do because we felt that it would, though you made a case that it would be done with a strength that was not the empirical historical evidence of the time.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2186.0,2212.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd so we felt that we had no confidence that, that policy would work. In retrospect, I still think we're very right. The more that I observed after him, and I'm sorry that Alice wasn't a little more forceful in your statement to the secretary from And that is that Africa should be Africans.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2212.0,2234.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd if anybody's foolish enough to go in and take sides in the family quarrel, then might as well do it. And I think the premise that you faced, our involvement in Africa at the time and in history, was that this would be an innate benefit to the Soviet Union.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2234.0,2253.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd if so factor would be detrimental to our interests. That premise. I see no benefit to the Soviet Union going into and wasting it's arms and it's political capital in Africa. Because of the next generation of instability that we're gonna face in Africa. And the result of that, they're not gonna develop any long term loyalties to anybody who has helped the majority beat the minority, and then ten years later, the minority comes back and is empowering Resentment to the people who caused them [INAUDIBLE] suffering.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2253.0,2294.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think the situation's much, much [INAUDIBLE]. But I want to say that in that [INAUDIBLE] agreement of [INAUDIBLE], I am the first to applaud you for what I thought was probably the benchmark of American foreign policy under common [INAUDIBLE] enunciated by you and and I couldn't help but be so proud of America, that we clearly chose sides.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2294.0,2318.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd we chose sides with the black majority, and you enunciated that very clearly. That has set the tone, for our foreign policy, and I think to answer the question that you did not answer very carefully and that was, when they get down to the bottom of the rim of the cauldron and the options that are put back, no put back, where will we go, I think that the American people will go with the majority of people, and that'll be black people.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2318.0,2341.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSpeaking to the esoteric treatment that you gave of that, I was very impressed with that earlier today, I think expand them. But in the final analysis, and I think and I had a discussion earlier in the week, the solution to suggest the level of material for people there.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2341.0,2368.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd their desire to continue the confrontation. Or to let themselves be evolved in to a new format of. And if they don't want to do that, there's nothing we can do, but counsel them. And they help all parties and middle large or low in that. I think the minute we get on course in that we advocate very vital to the objected culture in what we are doing.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2368.0,2397.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLet me just speak briefly to Different points. One is, with respect to the UN, I think you got somebody very graciously operated tenure with respect to the US. Are about a role that you could have played in that regard. But I think the problem with the United Nations, is the same problem we have with Chief Executive Officers.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2397.0,2425.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThat there are great politicians up until the time they get power and then they get lazy and they would rather rely on force of arms than continue their political art because it is so difficult. And so in the United Nations, we have sort of blasted aside because it is easier for us as a great power to actionize the battles of poverty defines in foreign affairs in the use of force to back that up, rather than move into the area in which I have problems.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2425.0,2458.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThat is the human rights of economic well-being, people's and that's not foreign policy, it's a different foreign policy. It's an unrewarding foreign policy, and that's what I would like to see us move into. And the only game we have to play that with is the United Nations with all of its imperfections.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2458.0,2479.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe other is linkage, and you're right. I never heard you express that you believed in linkage. I thought, in my personal view, and you use it when you want, and you don't anymore. And the Russians did that very well. And you mentioned, when you at the height, when you first solved one agreement, you're bombing the hell out their allies, and it didn't even phase them one bit.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2479.0,2503.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nA democratic country can't afford that much, because you're building the river to rest on a broader base than the central leadership of the nation. And this is particular because Jimmy Carter couldn't get a Salt Agreement this year cuz life depended upon it. Even if there was a. The baggage is just a little too heavy, as he pointed out.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2503.0,2523.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I know for a fact that Bobby Burns already told the president that he can't come up the trip. So I think that there's some flexibility that's being used in the scenario of when it's being brought to fruition, and I think that we can give it ample reason for that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2523.0,2539.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI would now like to conclude, and that was my statement, and now I'd ask a question to you.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e In the process of your remarks today, I was totally surprised and befuddled that, on two separate occasions, with great emphasis, you stated how important it was that foreign policy not be the subject of a personality, but it would be apart from it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2539.0,2568.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd you repeated with emphasis that there's too much personalization in foreign policy. And I wonder if you might tell me if other than John Foster Dulles, are you warning us against something that happened, or somebody on the scene.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e Can't blame that kind of reaction.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2568.0,2596.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e [INAUDIBLE] with respect to Africa. There isn't much point in giving my view. I gave it yesterday. I think you gave a very fair statement of the issues as they were perceived by the two sides of the controversy during the Angola situation. This is exactly how it would be my views or the ones I described yesterday [INAUDIBLE].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2596.0,2631.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe only point I would make and that's independent of the [INAUDIBLE] Angola to assist. You said that one reason, so many of your colleagues acted as they did was that despite reasonable arguments they had seen, they had empirical experience that restraint is not that much to be taken for granted.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2631.0,2656.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBut we quote talked ourselves into a Vietnam sort of obsession in which we almost implied that if we send one bottle of Coke to Zaire, we will wake up the next morning and find 500,000 troops there. Which again, comes from the myth that Johnson sort of smuggled 500,000 troops into Vietnam without anybody noticing.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2656.0,2681.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThat too, isn't true. It was perfectly well known what he did, wisely or unwisely. Congress appropriated money for it every year, and even if not every tactical detail was known. But I think if one analyzes a situation like Angola, it is obvious that it could not possibly lead to an open ended commitment in the nature of what force could rationally be brought to bare by anybody's efforts.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2681.0,2711.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd all I would ask here therefore is that we get some sort of a conception in our country. And in the debates that are inevitable between the congress and the administration whichever it is, what is the rational limit to which things can be driven even if the commenters of restraint are not kept because we have too much now suffering from an obsession.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2711.0,2740.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWith a maybe misunderstood historical analogy. Vietnam had so many peculiarities that his sort of argument might lead to impressive perils. The second point you raised with respect to human rights, and I agree that we must stand for some moral convictions in the world. We cannot explain our efforts to our people, we cannot be meaningful to others, unless we avow some fundamental principles.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2740.0,2778.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd this is the reason why [INAUDIBLE]\nand Santiago state that the document in countries. And just have a feeling that you have to pay special attention to human rights. And we could not ignore it. And he met with them in Buenos Aires, a few weeks ago, [INAUDIBLE]. However, we have a aforementioned today's implementation.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2778.0,2823.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd might consider that we should stand for human rights. But my concern is that when we make this an operational principle of day to day politics that we. That we had no means of achieving, and that then leads to a demonstration of our impotence. That in order to have some successes, we concentrate mostly on friendly countries, and weak friendly countries.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2823.0,2855.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd third then, we will feed American isolationism by adding so many restrictions to his foreign aid bill, that they become almost rather than a foreign aid bill. But I do not say that we should not stand for human rights and. My experience has been, but I could be wrong, and I don't insist on it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2855.0,2879.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThat it is often Better to attempt to achieve the specific results by a quiet approach to the countries concerned, than through a public confrontation in international force. And on that basis, some progress was made with the Soviet Union in previous periods. But I don't want to say, at all, that this is negligent problem.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2879.0,2907.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNow, the third point, it's obvious that I believe that only one personality can.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e But to put it, what I have in mind, is the following. In every election campaign, since 1980, to pretend that it has the solution to the problem.\n\u003e\u003e [LAUGH]\n\u003e\u003e And that it will offer a totally new approach, and final remedy.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2907.0,2942.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd to the extent that we pretend that there is a huge range of choice available at the foreign policy, two things happen. One it created chaos with foreign governments, who after all have to act on the basis of some predictability. And second it creates the temptation on the part of new administration, to carry out what they said they would do.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2942.0,2969.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd they then had a learning period of about two years when they determined the limit within the started with foreign policy. And that is what patient should be avoided. I know what you had in the back of your mind with your question. But they were very specific historical circumstances connected with the collapse of executive authority that led to the [INAUDIBLE] in 1973 and 74.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=2969.0,3004.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI would say that the general proposition Including myself, if it's not helping, it's tied I think to personality. I think sometimes a personality can crystallize things, but it is better for a society, if there is a broad consenus [INAUDIBLE], but the limit in which the international system. [COUGH]\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=3004.0,3035.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\n\u003e\u003e Thank you very much. We're running out of time now, can we have very brief comments and questions from, for the Middle East.\n\u003e\u003e I'll address my remarks primarily to the matter of Africa, Joe. Even though I expect that a few of you in the audience may feel that you already have heard more about penguins than you feel you really need to know.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=3035.0,3066.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd about problems like Angola, Rhodesia, South Africa, and so on, there is a great deal more that might be said because, even small problems on the world scene have their own complications. And now I'll spare you my particular thoughts on those matters. And say just a couple of general things about the whole American approach to Africa, which I think now really quite radically needs to be changed.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=3066.0,3102.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAfrica came on the world scene about 20 years ago. It came on, as far as Americans were concerned, as a very new, unfamiliar, peculiar sort of a, Of the world. We had previously dealt with it through Brussels, or through Paris, or through London. The names were unfamiliar, the attitude, state of mind was quite unfamiliar.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=3102.0,3130.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd the whole place just simply didn't fit the premises of international diplomacy as we were acquainted with. In fact, if diplomacy Henry, starts from the existence of nation states, even the nations of Africa didn't conform to [COUGH] the nationhood as we had come to understand it. They had very ambiguous and, oftentimes, preposterous borders.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=3130.0,3165.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThey had governments that were not in track and control in the internal affairs of many parts of homeland territory. And so and I personally believe that the racial matter have a very significant effect on the American perception of that may come. In any event, 20 years have now gone by, and I think certain patterns can be discerned concern in a way that the United States has thrived to remain itself for that huge.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=3165.0,3207.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe pattern is really about as clear as this, but first of all we deny the significance if not the very existence of the area. And so far we can neglect and ignore it's problems as far as we have possibly can. We spend no time in the kind of forehand in thinking about what our interests there are, in a longer term sense.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=3207.0,3238.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhat are our priorities, what are general approach might be? And then suddenly, something erupts whether it's the old Congo, whether it's Angola, whatever it may be. The Nigerian Civil War, it's suddenly thrust the thing that upon our attention. And then our pattern is to react in haste if not in panic, not together some Jerry built policies and programs.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=3238.0,3272.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd as soon as the problem for whatever reason subsides, then we return to this in different and remove pattern. But I think after 20 years we've and I might say, Henry, I think that to some considerable degree, this was the pattern during time. I think it was even the pattern during a good part of your reign in Washington.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=3272.0,3304.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I think that unfortunately it's again despite the best of intentions, rather characteristic of [INAUDIBLE]. And therefore I myself feel that quite apart now from what particular actions or restraint of action that. And some of these situations, in particular situations with memorabilia, and so on and so on.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=3304.0,3337.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nHenry is right, in suggesting, as he did yesterday, that somebody, some group. Ought now to sit down seriously and thoughtfully, and try to look in a little longer perspective and in a realistic and actionable way And what the problems, and the priorities, and interests of this country are in that continent.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=3337.0,3371.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd try to begin to give some coherence and some continuity to what we're doing. And I've been thinking about it overnight. I think I was wrong in the implication of my first reaction to Henry's suggestion. Namely that we, in effect, ought to defer to the project that the Council on Foreign Relations has now initiated with the Rockefeller Foundation funding.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=3371.0,3401.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think that the timetable of that is simply too slow. And I think there may be some other institutional problems there that will interfere with a useful and relevant product. And so I do feel that, with Joe and Henry, that there is a very worthwhile, rather important, rather urgent piece of thinking to be done.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=3401.0,3436.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd I think that perhaps the Institute would be is the appropriate response for that as I think [INAUDIBLE] could identify. I think it ought to be a relatively fast track operation, that is a year to 18 months affair rather than a four or five year thing. I think it ought to be oriented very much in the direction of actionable proposals.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=3436.0,3469.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAnd not simply the delineation of grand principles and concepts. I think the composition of the American part of it ought to be diverse. That is to say, people of different backgrounds. Including people with practical experience in foreign affairs [INAUDIBLE] have other kinds of background. And I must say, as sort of an Africanist, I would be particularly wary of loading it with Africanists.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526#t=3469.0,3505.0"},{"id":"https://yalemssa.aviaryplatform.com/collections/56/collection_resources/17945/file/73526/transcript/8377/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFor reasons I won't bother to [LAUGH] go into at this point. 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